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Re: The Newer-est Video Game Thread 

Post#141 » by Calinks » Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:02 pm

So I am pretty deep into Last of Us 2 at this point and I see why the game is controversial. There a few things that are going on. Some are major story events that some fans may be unhappy with. Some is people who don't like the way the game has put on emphasis on strong female characters and people who are very anti "SJW" ideals in media. None of that has bothered me. What I do think is affecting a lot of people though, and for good reasons, is the violence.

This game is extremely violent. We are talking 30-40 hours worth of brutality. Not only is it like action game pew pew violence, it's people getting eaten, ripped apart, mauled, bludgeoned with hammers, etc. Not only that, sometimes the story forces you or your character to do terrible things. There is some degree of thin justification, you aren't simply maiming people for joy but it's still extremely cold and savage.

I think for a lot of people it's a bit much, especially with the current climate. It's a deeply dark and traumatic story. I am personally thoroughly enjoying it but I think I am playing it in the right head space. It's like watching a really harsh movie. For some people they just well not be comfortable with what is going on. I totally get that. I don't think its a game for everyone, that's for sure.
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Re: The Newer-est Video Game Thread 

Post#142 » by KGdaBom » Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:45 am

Calinks wrote:It's pretty much peak videogame movie experience. You are playing a game but the acting, writing, detail, is top-notch. Game is completely gruesome and dark though, a turn off for a lot of people.

As I expected my son has bought it, but hasn't given me his report yet.
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Re: The Newer-est Video Game Thread 

Post#143 » by KGdaBom » Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:47 am

Calinks wrote:So I am pretty deep into Last of Us 2 at this point and I see why the game is controversial. There a few things that are going on. Some are major story events that some fans may be unhappy with. Some is people who don't like the way the game has put on emphasis on strong female characters and people who are very anti "SJW" ideals in media. None of that has bothered me. What I do think is affecting a lot of people though, and for good reasons, is the violence.

This game is extremely violent. We are talking 30-40 hours worth of brutality. Not only is it like action game pew pew violence, it's people getting eaten, ripped apart, mauled, bludgeoned with hammers, etc. Not only that, sometimes the story forces you or your character to do terrible things. There is some degree of thin justification, you aren't simply maiming people for joy but it's still extremely cold and savage.

I think for a lot of people it's a bit much, especially with the current climate. It's a deeply dark and traumatic story. I am personally thoroughly enjoying it but I think I am playing it in the right head space. It's like watching a really harsh movie. For some people they just well not be comfortable with what is going on. I totally get that. I don't think its a game for everyone, that's for sure.

My son will LOVE IT. I wonder if there will be an option to just watch the game as a movie?
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Re: The Newer-est Video Game Thread 

Post#144 » by UcanUwill » Fri Jun 26, 2020 9:28 am

Calinks wrote:So I am pretty deep into Last of Us 2 at this point and I see why the game is controversial. There a few things that are going on. Some are major story events that some fans may be unhappy with. Some is people who don't like the way the game has put on emphasis on strong female characters and people who are very anti "SJW" ideals in media. None of that has bothered me. What I do think is affecting a lot of people though, and for good reasons, is the violence.

This game is extremely violent. We are talking 30-40 hours worth of brutality. Not only is it like action game pew pew violence, it's people getting eaten, ripped apart, mauled, bludgeoned with hammers, etc. Not only that, sometimes the story forces you or your character to do terrible things. There is some degree of thin justification, you aren't simply maiming people for joy but it's still extremely cold and savage.

I think for a lot of people it's a bit much, especially with the current climate. It's a deeply dark and traumatic story. I am personally thoroughly enjoying it but I think I am playing it in the right head space. It's like watching a really harsh movie. For some people they just well not be comfortable with what is going on. I totally get that. I don't think its a game for everyone, that's for sure.



I am with Jim Sterling rolling my eyes at game director who basically stated that they wanted to make murdering as realistic as possible. For years games tried to advocate itself against anti intellectuals who blamed real world violence on video games, saying games are just games, but now we have game directors who literally say they want to simulate murder in their game. I get the need for realism in todays games, but if you really need murdering in games to be as real as possible, I dont know man.
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Re: The Newer-est Video Game Thread 

Post#145 » by Calinks » Fri Jun 26, 2020 3:56 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
Calinks wrote:So I am pretty deep into Last of Us 2 at this point and I see why the game is controversial. There a few things that are going on. Some are major story events that some fans may be unhappy with. Some is people who don't like the way the game has put on emphasis on strong female characters and people who are very anti "SJW" ideals in media. None of that has bothered me. What I do think is affecting a lot of people though, and for good reasons, is the violence.

This game is extremely violent. We are talking 30-40 hours worth of brutality. Not only is it like action game pew pew violence, it's people getting eaten, ripped apart, mauled, bludgeoned with hammers, etc. Not only that, sometimes the story forces you or your character to do terrible things. There is some degree of thin justification, you aren't simply maiming people for joy but it's still extremely cold and savage.

I think for a lot of people it's a bit much, especially with the current climate. It's a deeply dark and traumatic story. I am personally thoroughly enjoying it but I think I am playing it in the right head space. It's like watching a really harsh movie. For some people they just well not be comfortable with what is going on. I totally get that. I don't think its a game for everyone, that's for sure.



I am with Jim Sterling rolling my eyes at game director who basically stated that they wanted to make murdering as realistic as possible. For years games tried to advocate itself against anti intellectuals who blamed real world violence on video games, saying games are just games, but now we have game directors who literally say they want to simulate murder in their game. I get the need for realism in todays games, but if you really need murdering in games to be as real as possible, I dont know man.

It's a touchy subject. I actually appreciate it myself. I enjoy a degree of realism and I like dark gritty films and stories. I don't like the violence purely for the sake of violence, I like an impactful story to go along with it. I think the last of Us 2 is mature enough to pull that off.

The violence in here is packed all over and yea it will be overwhelming for some. That said I think there is a place for it, I think mature players can appreciate it, there will absolutely be some people who just love the "violence porn" of it all too though. I think if this game came out in the late 90's it would be blasted all over the news as you say, as a game that promotes violence or influences kids negatively. This is not a game designed for kids (though some kids will play it, I very likely would have gotten my hands on it as a kid but at the same time I was a kid who this kind of stuff wouldn't negatively impact, not all are.)

I liken it to Taxi Driver, Pulp Fiction, or Saving Private Ryan. The Overall writing so far maybe won't live up to some of these films, and the violence is more pronounced and constant seeing as this is a 40-hour game but for the violence plays a similar role. It informs the story, makes the events more impactful. This game will likely stick with me. It's a thin line but I feel this game walks it well, others will not agree, however. I am definitely leaning towards the idea that this is a narrative masterpiece, like the first game.

KGdaBom wrote:My son will LOVE IT. I wonder if there will be an option to just watch the game as a movie?


Often times someone just uploads the cut scenes of a game, you could probably find a video on youtube that does that. If not now someone will probably do it eventually.
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Re: The Newer-est Video Game Thread 

Post#146 » by KGdaBom » Fri Jun 26, 2020 9:01 pm

Calinks wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
Calinks wrote:So I am pretty deep into Last of Us 2 at this point and I see why the game is controversial. There a few things that are going on. Some are major story events that some fans may be unhappy with. Some is people who don't like the way the game has put on emphasis on strong female characters and people who are very anti "SJW" ideals in media. None of that has bothered me. What I do think is affecting a lot of people though, and for good reasons, is the violence.

This game is extremely violent. We are talking 30-40 hours worth of brutality. Not only is it like action game pew pew violence, it's people getting eaten, ripped apart, mauled, bludgeoned with hammers, etc. Not only that, sometimes the story forces you or your character to do terrible things. There is some degree of thin justification, you aren't simply maiming people for joy but it's still extremely cold and savage.

I think for a lot of people it's a bit much, especially with the current climate. It's a deeply dark and traumatic story. I am personally thoroughly enjoying it but I think I am playing it in the right head space. It's like watching a really harsh movie. For some people they just well not be comfortable with what is going on. I totally get that. I don't think its a game for everyone, that's for sure.



I am with Jim Sterling rolling my eyes at game director who basically stated that they wanted to make murdering as realistic as possible. For years games tried to advocate itself against anti intellectuals who blamed real world violence on video games, saying games are just games, but now we have game directors who literally say they want to simulate murder in their game. I get the need for realism in todays games, but if you really need murdering in games to be as real as possible, I dont know man.

It's a touchy subject. I actually appreciate it myself. I enjoy a degree of realism and I like dark gritty films and stories. I don't like the violence purely for the sake of violence, I like an impactful story to go along with it. I think the last of Us 2 is mature enough to pull that off.

The violence in here is packed all over and yea it will be overwhelming for some. That said I think there is a place for it, I think mature players can appreciate it, there will absolutely be some people who just love the "violence porn" of it all too though. I think if this game came out in the late 90's it would be blasted all over the news as you say, as a game that promotes violence or influences kids negatively. This is not a game designed for kids (though some kids will play it, I very likely would have gotten my hands on it as a kid but at the same time I was a kid who this kind of stuff wouldn't negatively impact, not all are.)

I liken it to Taxi Driver, Pulp Fiction, or Saving Private Ryan. The Overall writing so far maybe won't live up to some of these films, and the violence is more pronounced and constant seeing as this is a 40-hour game but for the violence plays a similar role. It informs the story, makes the events more impactful. This game will likely stick with me. It's a thin line but I feel this game walks it well, others will not agree, however. I am definitely leaning towards the idea that this is a narrative masterpiece, like the first game.

KGdaBom wrote:My son will LOVE IT. I wonder if there will be an option to just watch the game as a movie?


Often times someone just uploads the cut scenes of a game, you could probably find a video on youtube that does that. If not now someone will probably do it eventually.

When I was in the game world the first thing that Naughty Dog did was a mortal kombat type game that was much more realistic looking called Way of the Warrior. The guy representing the game tried so hard to get me into it, but I'm not good at those LOL.

If they do a good job with it the game can be enjoyed as a movie. I'm not a big fan of violence and I don't like gore at all, but I will look for it anyway.
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Re: The Newer-est Video Game Thread 

Post#147 » by Jedzz » Sat Jun 27, 2020 2:39 pm

Calinks wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
Calinks wrote:So I am pretty deep into Last of Us 2 at this point and I see why the game is controversial. There a few things that are going on. Some are major story events that some fans may be unhappy with. Some is people who don't like the way the game has put on emphasis on strong female characters and people who are very anti "SJW" ideals in media. None of that has bothered me. What I do think is affecting a lot of people though, and for good reasons, is the violence.

This game is extremely violent. We are talking 30-40 hours worth of brutality. Not only is it like action game pew pew violence, it's people getting eaten, ripped apart, mauled, bludgeoned with hammers, etc. Not only that, sometimes the story forces you or your character to do terrible things. There is some degree of thin justification, you aren't simply maiming people for joy but it's still extremely cold and savage.

I think for a lot of people it's a bit much, especially with the current climate. It's a deeply dark and traumatic story. I am personally thoroughly enjoying it but I think I am playing it in the right head space. It's like watching a really harsh movie. For some people they just well not be comfortable with what is going on. I totally get that. I don't think its a game for everyone, that's for sure.



I am with Jim Sterling rolling my eyes at game director who basically stated that they wanted to make murdering as realistic as possible. For years games tried to advocate itself against anti intellectuals who blamed real world violence on video games, saying games are just games, but now we have game directors who literally say they want to simulate murder in their game. I get the need for realism in todays games, but if you really need murdering in games to be as real as possible, I dont know man.

It's a touchy subject. I actually appreciate it myself. I enjoy a degree of realism and I like dark gritty films and stories. I don't like the violence purely for the sake of violence, I like an impactful story to go along with it. I think the last of Us 2 is mature enough to pull that off.

The violence in here is packed all over and yea it will be overwhelming for some. That said I think there is a place for it, I think mature players can appreciate it, there will absolutely be some people who just love the "violence porn" of it all too though. I think if this game came out in the late 90's it would be blasted all over the news as you say, as a game that promotes violence or influences kids negatively. This is not a game designed for kids (though some kids will play it, I very likely would have gotten my hands on it as a kid but at the same time I was a kid who this kind of stuff wouldn't negatively impact, not all are.)

I liken it to Taxi Driver, Pulp Fiction, or Saving Private Ryan. The Overall writing so far maybe won't live up to some of these films, and the violence is more pronounced and constant seeing as this is a 40-hour game but for the violence plays a similar role. It informs the story, makes the events more impactful. This game will likely stick with me. It's a thin line but I feel this game walks it well, others will not agree, however. I am definitely leaning towards the idea that this is a narrative masterpiece, like the first game.

KGdaBom wrote:My son will LOVE IT. I wonder if there will be an option to just watch the game as a movie?


Often times someone just uploads the cut scenes of a game, you could probably find a video on youtube that does that. If not now someone will probably do it eventually.



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Re: The Newer-est Video Game Thread 

Post#148 » by Calinks » Mon Jul 6, 2020 11:47 pm

I finished Last of Us 2. Got to say, for me the game did start to unravel a bit as it went out. I don't have many problems with a lot of the controversial story elements that take place, particularly the time issues that really pissed people off, but I do think the game dragged in places, was too long and could have been tighter. That said, I do appreciate most of the ballsy moves they took. Much of this was masterful but again, I think it got kind of sloppy in areas and it comes up short.

I still really enjoyed it though and don't at all regret getting it. None of the stuff that set some people off bothered me all that much if at all. That said, I have a high tolerance level for movies and games as long as I think there is quality story/acting. I also don't have a problem with grey characters.
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