BNM wrote: Jedzz wrote:
Layman - lack of consistency. He could outgrow that with with more PT and a consistent role.
Vonleh - limited offensive skill set. He is, however, a good rebounder and a rock solid defender.
Let's face it, if they were great players, they'd both be making a lot more money. As is, on their current deals, I think Layman is paid fairly and Vonleh is a bargain.
Layman's 3pt numbers don't impress me much. Other than a steep climb up to last season's numbers in both 2s and 3s when his minutes increased over the 4 and 7 mins/game he had his first two seasons. It always seems like a good sign to me when their numbers and efficiency increases as their minutes do. Plenty of player examples where that's not happening. If he continues that trend, his first foray into a season averaging at least 20 mins a game might be another step up. Well see if he can get that much play here.
Layman shot a very respectable .374 3FG% in 46 games prior to the all star break, but an abysmal .224 post all star break. That may be more fatigue related than inconsistency, as he saw his minutes jump from 160 the season before to 1327 last season. He went from averaging 4 MPG in 35 games to almost 19 MPG in 71 games. That was really his first exposure to the grind of a long NBA regular season.
Im not sold on fatigue being the cause, but it would be great if he actually is an above average 3pt shooter.
For one, would make his 3 year deal look dirty cheap. It also would help to set a high bar for wing minutes.
But I want to have some insight in his career and will share it here.
He played 4 years in Maryland (Winning 25, 17, 28 and 27 games) and over 30 MPG the last 3 seasons there.
Was a good 3pt shooter (.362) on medium volume (5.6 att per40) and .759 FT% (topped at 83% the 4th year, but has regressed to .714 in the NBA).
He was a positive player in both sides off the court by BPM every season in college, including being one of 21 sophmores/freshman to achieve a BPM of +3/+3 in over 800 minutes in 2013. Under those qualifiers there is a good list of NBA players.https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&year_min=2014&year_max=2014&class_is_fr=Y&class_is_so=Y&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&games_type=A&c1stat=obpm&c1comp=gt&c1val=3&c2stat=dbpm&c2comp=gt&c2val=3&c3stat=mp&c3comp=gt&c3val=600&order_by=pts
Back to his NBA tenure, he barely played the first 2 season in Portland, just 400 minutes, likely all trash time and took just 71 3's.
Lat season he played 840 minutes in 46 games pre ASB (in 120 calendar days)and 487 minutes 25 games after post ASB in roughly calendar 50 days. Then basically didnt play in the playoffs with other 10 player above him in the rotation.
Really don't seem such a heavy load for a 4 year college product in his third season in the NBA.
The increased playing time helped him to spike in rebounds per possession (8 per100 which is high for a wing and 3 more than the 5 per100 he averaged his first 2 years), but was worse in steal and assists. His FG% also jumped dramatically from the first 2 years, from 30% to above 50%.
When you zoom in 2pt attempts between both periods, he increased the attempts close to the rim from 20% to 40% of his attempts, reducing the long and medium range 2, and finishing at better clip inside 3 feet (from 70% to 75%).