NBA TV just broke some news: Tyus Jones agrees to contract with Memphis

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Cant and1 this tweet enough.

That basically should end up all assumption about Glen overpaying Wiggins. Yes, Glen had that littlу concern about giving max extension to Wiggins. But it was Thibs job and responsibility to take that decision. Rosas just let a local guy, who is beloved by many fans, media, coaching staff and teammates go. It is POBO power and it is his responsibility.

You have your right to be wrong.

[Rookie-Mistake]

I'm glad Rosas' didn't match. As a basketball club we need to stop overpaying for players. Pay your all stars and treat them well, surround them with role players that are happy with the role and money that's reflective for the role. If they start wanting more $$$ then off you go, move in someone that does the same thing.

In Rosas' I trust. But I have been kahned previously...

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It does when we are one Jeff Teague injury away from Shabazz Napier being our starting PG

Napier isnt so bad when compared to tyus.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.fcgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1_hint=Shabazz+Napier&player_id1_select=Shabazz+Napier&player_id1=napiesh01&y1=2019&player_id2_hint=Tyus+Jones&player_id2_select=Tyus+Jones&y2=2019&player_id2=jonesty01&idx=players

I don't dislike Shabazz Napier by any means, but the gap between him and Tyus Jones is monumental. Tyus Jones is a fringe-starter/excellent second-stringer while Shabazz Napier is more-so a fringe second-stringer/excellent third-stringer. The gap in reliability, vision, and (especially) defense is sizable.

We have legitimate concerns with our Point-Guard rotation unless Jeff Teague stays very healthy and Shabazz Napier thrives under Ryan Saunders new offense.

Nice comparison in the link. Numbers don't tell everything, but Napier with a large volume of 3s at mediocre % was better than Tyus smaller volume of 3s at bad percent. Napier much better scoring rate and slightly better eFG%. Tyus better at assists steals and TOs. Based on the total of the numbers I would give very slight edge to Tyus.

[minimus]

I wonder if we could sign&trade Tyus if the price was 25/4 and get at least one SPR.

[PharmD]

I feel like it was a good move to not match but it's kind of depressing that we're obviously just gonna punt this season.

I think rosas is gambling on point wiggs or point culver to initiate the offense and to run alot of offense through kat.

Haha, i like it. That's the problem with so much organizational turnover; every new regime thinks that Point Wiggins is viable. I'll never forgive Thibs for the 6-18 start with Point Wiggins and Ricky In The Corner. Completely derailed the franchise.

[Worm Guts]

I feel like it was a good move to not match but it's kind of depressing that we're obviously just gonna punt this season.

More moves will be made. '

Losing Tyus doesn't make us "punt" the season away.

Based on everything we’ve done, it seems the most likely direction. We seemed to have prioritized future flexibility over winning this season

[CP1981]

If Jeff stays healthy I think you'll guys will be fine at the pg position. It's just crazy the number of games he's missed the last two years. When we had him in Atlanta he barely missed a game. And missed none in Indiana. I don't think its age or nothing. Hopefully he bounces back this year.

Surprised they didnt match Tyus. I think he's a good backup. I think his advanced numbers overrate him to some extent.

Maybe you guys add someone on a cheap deal like Shelvin Mack. I dont know who else is available for cheap in the pg department.

[jpatrick]

Rosas, like Morey, believes you win by having stars on your team. To acquire a star, and you never really know when they are suddenly available, you need to have two things: financial flexibility and assets.

Rosas needs to strip down the roster a bit to get flexibility thanks to Thibs’ incompetence as a GM.

[PharmD]

If Jeff stays healthy I think you'll guys will be fine at the pg position. It's just crazy the number of games he's missed the last two years. When we had him in Atlanta he barely missed a game. And missed none in Indiana. I don't think its age or nothing. Hopefully he bounces back this year.

Surprised they didnt match Tyus. I think he's a good backup. I think his advanced numbers overrate him to some extent.

Maybe you guys add someone on a cheap deal like Shelvin Mack. I dont know who else is available for cheap in the pg department.

Well also the fact that Teague is agonizing to watch some times. We have no point guard of the future and now can't move Teague without either getting a PG back or tanking the season (unless Culver turns out to be a viable PG). Tyus is good enough that he could have been a transitional starter after trading Teague.

[minimus]

If Jeff stays healthy I think you'll guys will be fine at the pg position. It's just crazy the number of games he's missed the last two years. When we had him in Atlanta he barely missed a game. And missed none in Indiana. I don't think its age or nothing. Hopefully he bounces back this year.

Teague declined athletically due injuries and age like many small guards do. The most evident that he cant create and finish effectively at rim. Unfortunately he does not have other skills (decision making, passing, 3pt shooting, defense) to compensate this decline.

[Jstock12]

Quite curious about those incentives. If they're 3PT shooting related, then it's quite a nice contract and I think easily worth matching.

[Killboard]

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Wolves could have max space by trading Dieng and his 1st round pick ( or Culver), Wiggins, or Culver+1st round pick+Roco.
Less than that is unlikely to do it.

[Killboard]

If Jeff stays healthy I think you'll guys will be fine at the pg position. It's just crazy the number of games he's missed the last two years. When we had him in Atlanta he barely missed a game. And missed none in Indiana. I don't think its age or nothing. Hopefully he bounces back this year.

Surprised they didnt match Tyus. I think he's a good backup. I think his advanced numbers overrate him to some extent.

Maybe you guys add someone on a cheap deal like Shelvin Mack. I dont know who else is available for cheap in the pg department.

Well also the fact that Teague is agonizing to watch some times. We have no point guard of the future and now can't move Teague without either getting a PG back or tanking the season (unless Culver turns out to be a viable PG). Tyus is good enough that he could have been a transitional starter after trading Teague.

If the wolves were picking a PG next draft Tyus would have been perfect to fit along him just like Memphis is going to do with Morant.
Tyus has upside, is very smart for his age and wont demand high minutes. Tyus on 8M+Rookie deal is a cheap upside rotation at PG.

[Killboard]

Rosas, like Morey, believes you win by having stars on your team. To acquire a star, and you never really know when they are suddenly available, you need to have two things: financial flexibility and assets.

Rosas needs to strip down the roster a bit to get flexibility thanks to Thibs’ incompetence as a GM.

He kept flexibilty but also singed 1 year deals who dont become assets if they are paid market value next offseason.
Leaving out our first round picks the wolves only have Roco, Culver and nothing more left. Maybe Okogie/KBD if the league think they are going to be above average shooters.

[Killboard]

I feel like it was a good move to not match but it's kind of depressing that we're obviously just gonna punt this season.

More moves will be made. '

Losing Tyus doesn't make us "punt" the season away.

Based on everything we’ve done, it seems the most likely direction. We seemed to have prioritized future flexibility over winning this season

Tyus by himself doesnt. But when you actually see what they are doing:

Traded a potential PF starter to move up in the draft
Didnt match one of the 2 competent NBA PG from last season (who was on half money than the other).
Didnt use the MLE
Only bringed in Min guys on 1 year deals and Layman for fair value.

To me is pretty clear they are going to develop Culver and punt games for that.
Whether or not it is a good idea, time will tell

[_AIJ_]

28mil is too expensive for Tyus. Hes good, but hes not worth that much. If he could shoot and an inch or two taller, id match.


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[Killboard]

28mil is too expensive for Tyus. Hes good, but hes not worth that much. If he could shoot and an inch or two taller, id match.
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Glad we have Teague who is one inch taller and shoot 1.5% better from 3 last season (for more than twice Tyus money). We are going to be a good showcase for his contract year.

[PharmD]

I feel like this is the rare thread where everyone is right. IMO:

1) We will miss Tyus
2) His contract was too much, and not matching was 'correct'
3) We will be worse without Tyus this year than we would have been by matching. We are prioritizing future flexibility over being as good as possible this season
4) I hate watching Jeff Teague most of the time

[shrink]

I feel like this is the rare thread where everyone is right. IMO:

1) We will miss Tyus
2) His contract was too much, and not matching was 'correct'
3) We will be worse without Tyus this year than we would have been by matching. We are prioritizing future flexibility over being as good as possible this season
4) I hate watching Jeff Teague most of the time

Consensus! Never saw that before!

[Worm Guts]

More moves will be made. '

Losing Tyus doesn't make us "punt" the season away.

Based on everything we’ve done, it seems the most likely direction. We seemed to have prioritized future flexibility over winning this season

Tyus by himself doesnt. But when you actually see what they are doing:

Traded a potential PF starter to move up in the draft
Didnt match one of the 2 competent NBA PG from last season (who was on half money than the other).
Didnt use the MLE
Only bringed in Min guys on 1 year deals and Layman for fair value.

To me is pretty clear they are going to develop Culver and punt games for that.
Whether or not it is a good idea, time will tell

I don't know what our plan with Culver is yet, but letting Tyus go when he would have been useful this season and there's not a better option is free agency is a clear indicator that we want financial flexibility going forward.