yes yes yes probably yes and yes. Did I mention, yes?karch34 wrote:Situation with KAT is weird because he is so gifted offensively but by all metrics defensively below average.
One thing that got me irregardless is he's upset about not being an All Star, but the team has lost the last 19 games he's played in. Would having KG longer or in some capacity as a mentor gave him someone who would've made it clear how hard he had to work and be able to say shut up and keep your head down instead of whining to refs?
Does having RoCo playing out of position as safety net really help his D as much as a true rim defender does?
Does having a system where he's more focused on mixing 3s with more post play which could then open up more kick outs and getting teammates involved help?
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It's not in our best interest to play him as PF. Never was, never will.
Just making these blanket empty claims.
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Dewey wrote:Why not give KAT and Wiggins some R&R ? Give Dieng and the gang some run again. Anyway, they have to try some things that exclude KAT and Wiggins as center pieces. Make them fit in rather than having the team act as their servants
Wiggins rarely has plays ran for him anymore. It's all about KAT all the time. At the beginning of the season they were putting the ball in wiggins' hands, not anymore. Jmo, they are hitching their horse to the wrong max guy.
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Jedzz wrote:Foye wrote:
It's not in our best interest to play him as PF. Never was, never will.
Just making these blanket empty claims.
I have explained in detail in the trade thread. No need to do it again.
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Foye wrote:Jedzz wrote:Foye wrote:
It's not in our best interest to play him as PF. Never was, never will.
Just making these blanket empty claims.
I have explained in detail in the trade thread. No need to do it again.
... but just not buying what your selling ... no biggy.
Flip response to Love wanting out, "He has no reason to be upset, you're either a part of the problem or a part of the solution"
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Dewey wrote:Norseman79 wrote:Calinks wrote:Some of it is on KAT. Absolutely, especially on defense. But the problems with the team are far more vast than KAT. He could be a lot better, that's true but the should be far far better. KAT needs to raise his game 5 more levels, the rest of the team needs to raise it 15 more levels.
If this is true, then can you please tell me why we look so much better when KAT doesn't play?
It's wierd. Seems the team stops playing basketball when KAT is on the floor and he is THE focus. They back away and become less involved. When Dieng is on the floor, they stay engaged. Sounds dumb, I really can't explain it, but I believe their is something to it.
In the start of the season Wiggins was the first option together with Towns in offense taking the more shots, taking the clutch shots and taking a lot of touches.
Then for whatever reason the team decided to make Towns the clear first option and Wiggins is not consindered as the second option right now. Nappier is the second option.
The result is that we became the worst team in NBA.
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vagelis wrote:Dewey wrote:Norseman79 wrote:
If this is true, then can you please tell me why we look so much better when KAT doesn't play?
It's wierd. Seems the team stops playing basketball when KAT is on the floor and he is THE focus. They back away and become less involved. When Dieng is on the floor, they stay engaged. Sounds dumb, I really can't explain it, but I believe their is something to it.
In the start of the season Wiggins was the first option together with Towns in offense taking the more shots, taking the clutch shots and taking a lot of touches.
Then for whatever reason the team decided to make Towns the clear first option and Wiggins is not consindered as the second option right now. Nappier is the second option.
The result is that we became the worst team in NBA.
Imo, I think they should put the ball back in Wiggins hands and let him be the 1st option again. Let Kat play off of him. They played winning basketball like that. Whatever happened is behind closed doors. If Wiggins is traded, we will see that Wiggins again
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Dewey wrote:Norseman79 wrote:Calinks wrote:Some of it is on KAT. Absolutely, especially on defense. But the problems with the team are far more vast than KAT. He could be a lot better, that's true but the should be far far better. KAT needs to raise his game 5 more levels, the rest of the team needs to raise it 15 more levels.
If this is true, then can you please tell me why we look so much better when KAT doesn't play?
It's wierd. Seems the team stops playing basketball when KAT is on the floor and he is THE focus. They back away and become less involved. When Dieng is on the floor, they stay engaged. Sounds dumb, I really can't explain it, but I believe their is something to it.
There are two sides of the court when Towns is out there and when Dieng is out there. Did they look engaged with Dieng on the court when they're on offense?
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Klomp wrote:Dewey wrote:Norseman79 wrote:
If this is true, then can you please tell me why we look so much better when KAT doesn't play?
It's wierd. Seems the team stops playing basketball when KAT is on the floor and he is THE focus. They back away and become less involved. When Dieng is on the floor, they stay engaged. Sounds dumb, I really can't explain it, but I believe their is something to it.
There are two sides of the court when Towns is out there and when Dieng is out there. Did they look engaged with Dieng on the court when they're on offense?
They were also without Wiggins in that span. Wiggins definitely brings up their offensive efficiency and is significantly better than towns on the defensive end
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Foye wrote:Jedzz wrote:Foye wrote:
It's not in our best interest to play him as PF. Never was, never will.
Just making these blanket empty claims.
I have explained in detail in the trade thread. No need to do it again.
I understand. I guess I missed it and searching isn't a search thing here. So I'm asking.
I think Towns has been proving he's more and more like Kevin Love by the season. Aside from maybe the dunks, but he's a little wild on those and causing himself some injuries there anyway.
Otherwise they could try, and this is going to blow way to many minds...just play Reid next to Towns. Let them share duties and whoever is stronger at whatever picks up the slack there. Reid really gets from point A to B quickly if anyone has been watching. He also shows a high desire to give defensive effort.
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From what I gather they want our '21 unprotected 1st, which is insane and they're obviously not getting. At most I'd offer them a pick swap that year but even then it would be protected to some degree.
I'm not surprised GS is asking for it though. Got to try.
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