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Post#161 » by packforfreedom » Sun Jan 3, 2021 1:35 pm

I still think Dlo is a good player. He's a natural scorer, a tough shot maker, a smooth ball handler and he can be a smart passer.
His defense isn't good but you can hide one bad defender on the perimeter when you have a good defensive team otherwise. The problem is our current 'system'. You either play him at the 1 in a PNR heavy offense, or at the 2 in a more motion based offense. But not at the 1 in some kind of 5-Out abomination

Well and he actually cares so don't compare him to Wiggins.
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Post#162 » by Slim Tubby » Sun Jan 3, 2021 3:06 pm

If Gerson was playing poker, he would think a Straight would be 1-2-2-2-5.

Russell has been an absolute disaster this season...there is no way to deny that as fact.

However, this roster is so poorly constructed and Saunders’ lineup configurations are so mind-blowingly bad that it might be impossible to truly pass judgement when players are being so poorly utilized.


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Post#163 » by IceManBK1 » Sun Jan 3, 2021 4:03 pm

My take is that Dlo needs to be featured in the offense to be efficient and productive. I think he is being overshadowed by Beasley's agression. I mean it's his own fault for not coming out locked in and play with high intensity. I think he'll be aggressive if the lineup was dlo/Okogie/3D guy or RHJ/Huancho or any stretch 4/Towns. I think when Towns comes back they need to focus offense on dlo and towns. No reason why they don't avg 18-20 fga each. Rest of guys should support them. Take the open shots. You know what I mean? He shouldn't be playing offball that much. He's just standing at the corner doing nth. Either you set some screens to free him or tell him to cut to the basket and run some iso post ups from the perimeter.
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Post#164 » by TheDominator273 » Sun Jan 3, 2021 7:53 pm

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mercgold3 wrote:One thing i mention and that's what happends when we create a logjam in the guard positions is that all started with the idea of playing Rubio - Dlo together.

To start that was already a problem, why?
Because the ball needs to be in his hands (Dlo) more while playing the 1-3-1 you need a capable shooter bla bla bla (this was discussed before the Rubio traded happen)
All of this knowing that Rubio was by far the better player than Dlo in pretty much every single category. Especially the one that says... $17M >>> $30M

But then to complicate even more this problem you pay big money to Beasley and draft Edwards. Just brilliant. It took 3-4 games for people to realize the obvious thing. Rubio is so much better than Dlo and at same time you can't bench Dlo because he's the 'star' (BFF) and he's paid star money. So you slide Beasley to play as some type of SF role and Culver (another guard) to play as PF or something like that.

This is genius man. Just genius.
All of this could have been inevitable avoided with a more balanced roster.

How predictable was this?! Seriously.


Right? it's completely inevitable. To add insult to injury they run Culver back to lead some possesions at PG right from preseason on, and allow Edwards to run point on possessions as if he just stepped off the plane from Georgia. Why would you do this when you have Dlo and Rubio already in a pickle of who gets more point time? To make it a bloodbath, they finally sign Jmac to a second year of two way contract after camp and preseason is done so he has no prep with the team but launch him into the rotation after the first two wins for 16-24 mins of play because...they had such a dire need for more point guards on ball or guards to play off ball?

Can't wait to read about this in a future article or book that looks back to explain what all was suppsoe to have occured already by now or what is about to go down to explain all this. The Harden move still looms...Might have to wait until the dates occur that allows more players to be moved in this.
Just because a player brings the ball up after a made basket or initiate an offensive set from time to time doesn't mean they are playing point guard. It's only to our benefit that we have multiple players capable of initiating offense I'm not sure where the negativity comes with that.
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Re: The D'Angelo Russell Thread 

Post#165 » by Jedzz » Sun Jan 3, 2021 9:44 pm

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mercgold3 wrote:One thing i mention and that's what happends when we create a logjam in the guard positions is that all started with the idea of playing Rubio - Dlo together.

To start that was already a problem, why?
Because the ball needs to be in his hands (Dlo) more while playing the 1-3-1 you need a capable shooter bla bla bla (this was discussed before the Rubio traded happen)
All of this knowing that Rubio was by far the better player than Dlo in pretty much every single category. Especially the one that says... $17M >>> $30M

But then to complicate even more this problem you pay big money to Beasley and draft Edwards. Just brilliant. It took 3-4 games for people to realize the obvious thing. Rubio is so much better than Dlo and at same time you can't bench Dlo because he's the 'star' (BFF) and he's paid star money. So you slide Beasley to play as some type of SF role and Culver (another guard) to play as PF or something like that.

This is genius man. Just genius.
All of this could have been inevitable avoided with a more balanced roster.

How predictable was this?! Seriously.


Right? it's completely inevitable. To add insult to injury they run Culver back to lead some possesions at PG right from preseason on, and allow Edwards to run point on possessions as if he just stepped off the plane from Georgia. Why would you do this when you have Dlo and Rubio already in a pickle of who gets more point time? To make it a bloodbath, they finally sign Jmac to a second year of two way contract after camp and preseason is done so he has no prep with the team but launch him into the rotation after the first two wins for 16-24 mins of play because...they had such a dire need for more point guards on ball or guards to play off ball?

Can't wait to read about this in a future article or book that looks back to explain what all was suppsoe to have occured already by now or what is about to go down to explain all this. The Harden move still looms...Might have to wait until the dates occur that allows more players to be moved in this.
Just because a player brings the ball up after a made basket or initiate an offensive set from time to time doesn't mean they are playing point guard. It's only to our benefit that we have multiple players capable of initiating offense I'm not sure where the negativity comes with that.


You respond as if this was something happennig only once or twice. :lol: They've spent near full rotations on ball at times and that's while players like Dlo, Jmac, even Rubio have been on the court with them. The point guards at times end up being the ones only occasionally initiating the ball while they are out there. They don't have to be developed into point combos in the very first week of the season before our new set of point guards have a chance to gel with this team.

Go ahead, rewatch games if you weren't paying attention. The first 4 games for sure, even preseason before them. It was a major error in judgement. We'll see what the point was one day.
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Post#166 » by Domejandro » Tue Feb 16, 2021 11:11 pm

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Post#167 » by iamworthy » Tue Feb 16, 2021 11:13 pm

Saw a tweet last week that said Durant, Kyrie, and harden have already played more games together than Russell and KAT. That's crazy.
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Re: The D'Angelo Russell Thread 

Post#168 » by Klomp » Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:34 am

iamworthy wrote:Saw a tweet last week that said Durant, Kyrie, and harden have already played more games together than Russell and KAT. That's crazy.

So have Towns and Edwards
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Post#169 » by ChiefKeith91 » Sun Mar 21, 2021 11:26 pm

I know most of the ppl on this board want Russell traded because of his contract or +/- with the other featured players but I want to see what role Finch has planned for him for the last 7 weeks. Maybe watching the improved play of the team he'll realize he can actually trust them rather then resort to hero ball. I'm really interested in seeing 3 things from him

- Him & KAT playing 15-20 games together
- C&S % during KAT/Ant 2 man game
- His playmaking ability (Hitting Ant on cuts that lead to posters)

If Finch can get him back to his Laker playmaking and Brooklyn shooting days, this team will be winning and exciting to watch

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Post#170 » by Jedzz » Mon Mar 22, 2021 2:37 am

ChiefKeith91 wrote:I know most of the ppl on this board want Russell traded because of his contract or +/- with the other featured players but I want to see what role Finch has planned for him for the last 7 weeks. Maybe watching the improved play of the team he'll realize he can actually trust them rather then resort to hero ball. I'm really interested in seeing 3 things from him

- Him & KAT playing 15-20 games together
- C&S % during KAT/Ant 2 man game
- His playmaking ability (Hitting Ant on cuts that lead to posters)

If Finch can get him back to his Laker playmaking and Brooklyn shooting days, this team will be winning and exciting to watch

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Of course he could play less hero ball if playing with Kat and Beasley and a third Vet brought in. They could have even made that work with Rubio, tho would have been better with a vet forward. But if it's kids ball forget it. Because all the kids are unreliable, lack gameIQ or are stuck below higher draft pick players that are unrealiable and lack gameiq. Yet it still would have been doable had him and Kat played together enough. Just can't get anything to work right here. Always end up stepping on own toes and blaming bad luck.
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Post#171 » by winforlose » Mon Mar 22, 2021 8:32 pm

Any word on when he will make his on court return? I know he started practicing around 4 days ago.
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Post#172 » by _AIJ_ » Mon Apr 5, 2021 9:14 pm

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Post#173 » by IceManBK1 » Mon Apr 5, 2021 9:58 pm

Dlo probly rusty tonight. Will be surprised if he scores 10 pts off the bench. I think in the long run its gonna be better if one of Beasley or Edwards come off the bench cuz we have enough shooting and spacing now that we starting McDaniels at PF. Need more defense in the backcourt. Having instant offense in the 2nd unit will bring more balance to the team.

Dlo
Okogie
Edwards
McDaniels
Towns

Beasley main fire power off bench. He can gets mins at SG and SF. Still could get 25-30mins of action

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