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Game 58: Minnesota Timberwolves (17-40) @ Orlando Magic (26-32) - 7:00 PM ET

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Re: Game 58: Minnesota Timberwolves (17-40) @ Orlando Magic (26-32) - 7:00 PM ET 

Post#21 » by Jedzz » Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:31 am

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Jedzz wrote:Yes Dlo is a shooter unlike we've maybe ever had in eons, maybe ever idk.

Came into this with 5 minutes left in the half and it's the 2-2-1 again, not the 1-3-1. I knew Dual PGs was here to stay when Ryan was doing it last season. Holdover from Thibs reign. Only difference now is refusing to use two big bigs.

Good thing they have two PGs who work well together in Dlo and McLaughlin. BTW, the people that keep wanting a new PG in the draft and saying Mc should be the third next year really need to give that up. Mc is really really good and Tyus couldn't hold his water bottle. A different one might not work well with Dlo like this. If you draft one, don't go lofting him to the second PG role in the first year.


I think JMac gives us the ability to draft a high potential PG/SG combo and let him develop or use that pick as a trade asset down the line.


Well, if only they would develop him first from the third role. But we all know what happens if Wolves top pick is used on any PG/SG with on ball skills. So that makes me not want to waste a very good duo I'm seeing right now by doing so. The high draft pick will push Mc's minutes right off the table automatically because this team has never shown the ability to slow develop a FRP. Culver and Okogie prove it's still that way. Otherwise I would really agree with you if the BPA at our pick is a solid looking PG/SG prospect. Instead I might try trading down or for some team's ready made player instead. I just think we would be foolish to look this gift horse in the mouth and ruin it.

The idea of drafting him just as a future trade asset just assures we will play him many minutes just for the sake of keeping his value up for sale. It will stop them from slow developing him. It's just the teams way. Wish it was different. Maybe Rosas will say they are willing to do something different, not sure though.

Another thing about this. Mc is going to be cheaper. It's a big reason why I wanted them to propel Nowell;s development minutes. The team needs cheaper players that really can play. Some would say a draft pick will be too, but not a top 10 guy, not really, and certainly not when his first deal is up if he's any good. Where Mc could very well be a good value his entire career and enough so to be a truly longterm Wolves player. Culver at pick 6 is over 5/yr already. Probably same or more for top pick in this draft, right?
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Re: Game 58: Minnesota Timberwolves (17-40) @ Orlando Magic (26-32) - 7:00 PM ET 

Post#22 » by Mattya » Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:38 am

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Jedzz wrote:Yes Dlo is a shooter unlike we've maybe ever had in eons, maybe ever idk.

Came into this with 5 minutes left in the half and it's the 2-2-1 again, not the 1-3-1. I knew Dual PGs was here to stay when Ryan was doing it last season. Holdover from Thibs reign. Only difference now is refusing to use two big bigs.

Good thing they have two PGs who work well together in Dlo and McLaughlin. BTW, the people that keep wanting a new PG in the draft and saying Mc should be the third next year really need to give that up. Mc is really really good and Tyus couldn't hold his water bottle. A different one might not work well with Dlo like this. If you draft one, don't go lofting him to the second PG role in the first year.


I think JMac gives us the ability to draft a high potential PG/SG combo and let him develop or use that pick as a trade asset down the line.


Well, if only they would develop him first from the third role. But we all know what happens if Wolves top pick is used on any PG/SG with on ball skills. So that makes me not want to waste a very good duo I'm seeing right now by doing so. The high draft pick will push Mc's minutes right off the table automatically because this team has never shown the ability to slow develop a FRP. Culver and Okogie prove it's still that way. Otherwise I would really agree with you if the BPA at our pick is a solid looking PG/SG prospect. Instead I might try trading down or for some team's ready made player instead. I just think we would be foolish to look this gift horse in the mouth and ruin it.


I wouldn't use our pick on a combo guard but I would try to trade up from the Nets pick using all these little assets and see if any team around 10 bites. Especially with how small they play and my lack of confidence in our SF position right now.
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Re: Game 58: Minnesota Timberwolves (17-40) @ Orlando Magic (26-32) - 7:00 PM ET 

Post#23 » by life_saver » Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:39 am

I think Jim is in love with DLo
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Re: Game 58: Minnesota Timberwolves (17-40) @ Orlando Magic (26-32) - 7:00 PM ET 

Post#24 » by life_saver » Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:40 am

wtf was Okogie doing there lol
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Re: Game 58: Minnesota Timberwolves (17-40) @ Orlando Magic (26-32) - 7:00 PM ET 

Post#25 » by Loyal[]Wolf » Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:40 am

Russell is owning.
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Re: Game 58: Minnesota Timberwolves (17-40) @ Orlando Magic (26-32) - 7:00 PM ET 

Post#26 » by Calinks » Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:41 am

Josh botches a three but gets 3 point play.
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Re: Game 58: Minnesota Timberwolves (17-40) @ Orlando Magic (26-32) - 7:00 PM ET 

Post#27 » by Jedzz » Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:43 am

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I think JMac gives us the ability to draft a high potential PG/SG combo and let him develop or use that pick as a trade asset down the line.


Well, if only they would develop him first from the third role. But we all know what happens if Wolves top pick is used on any PG/SG with on ball skills. So that makes me not want to waste a very good duo I'm seeing right now by doing so. The high draft pick will push Mc's minutes right off the table automatically because this team has never shown the ability to slow develop a FRP. Culver and Okogie prove it's still that way. Otherwise I would really agree with you if the BPA at our pick is a solid looking PG/SG prospect. Instead I might try trading down or for some team's ready made player instead. I just think we would be foolish to look this gift horse in the mouth and ruin it.


I wouldn't use our pick on a combo guard but I would try to trade up from the Nets pick using all these little assets and see if any team around 10 bites. Especially with how small they play and my lack of confidence in our SF position right now.


Yes I would look more for a true SF prospect if there are any intriguing ones.
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Re: Game 58: Minnesota Timberwolves (17-40) @ Orlando Magic (26-32) - 7:00 PM ET 

Post#28 » by life_saver » Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:44 am

This team would be so so good if they can have atleast average interior defense. Perimeter defense looks good though
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Post#29 » by life_saver » Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:45 am

It's really encouraging to see offense not being **** even when KAT is not playing
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Re: Game 58: Minnesota Timberwolves (17-40) @ Orlando Magic (26-32) - 7:00 PM ET 

Post#30 » by Loyal[]Wolf » Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:46 am

life_saver wrote:This team would be so so good if they can have atleast average interior defense. Perimeter defense looks good though


Yep. We need to draft a guy with size (maybe draft with the first pick, and trade the second first rounder) who can play defense and / or trade for one.
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Re: Game 58: Minnesota Timberwolves (17-40) @ Orlando Magic (26-32) - 7:00 PM ET 

Post#31 » by Calinks » Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:46 am

life_saver wrote:This team would be so so good if they can have atleast average interior defense. Perimeter defense looks good though

Give this team B level defense with this same offensive output and you are at least a .500 team, likely better.
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Re: Game 58: Minnesota Timberwolves (17-40) @ Orlando Magic (26-32) - 7:00 PM ET 

Post#32 » by life_saver » Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:48 am

Layman with some stupid decision making...and Wolves missing easy bunnies near the rim
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Re: Game 58: Minnesota Timberwolves (17-40) @ Orlando Magic (26-32) - 7:00 PM ET 

Post#33 » by SCTwins » Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:49 am

We have to be highly ranked in fouling 3 point shooters.
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Re: Game 58: Minnesota Timberwolves (17-40) @ Orlando Magic (26-32) - 7:00 PM ET 

Post#34 » by Jedzz » Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:50 am

Bamba and Fultz beating us up a bit here?
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Re: Game 58: Minnesota Timberwolves (17-40) @ Orlando Magic (26-32) - 7:00 PM ET 

Post#35 » by Jedzz » Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:52 am

what happened to being in specific positions on floor for rebounds that analytics pointed to?
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Re: Game 58: Minnesota Timberwolves (17-40) @ Orlando Magic (26-32) - 7:00 PM ET 

Post#36 » by life_saver » Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:52 am

This 2nd unit has sucked here...good for tank though
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Re: Game 58: Minnesota Timberwolves (17-40) @ Orlando Magic (26-32) - 7:00 PM ET 

Post#37 » by Calinks » Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:53 am

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Re: Game 58: Minnesota Timberwolves (17-40) @ Orlando Magic (26-32) - 7:00 PM ET 

Post#38 » by life_saver » Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:54 am

Bench is basically losing this game
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Re: Game 58: Minnesota Timberwolves (17-40) @ Orlando Magic (26-32) - 7:00 PM ET 

Post#39 » by Calinks » Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:54 am

Damn giving up 100 points in 3 quarters is not good at all.
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Re: Game 58: Minnesota Timberwolves (17-40) @ Orlando Magic (26-32) - 7:00 PM ET 

Post#40 » by Jedzz » Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:59 am

JMac's gonna be shaving his head in a couple years and turn into a team gluing character on and off the court and the sketch artists will draw him with an oversized head and sell tshirts at the Fair. He could be the next long term name here like Dieng but on a better deal that doesn't turn people off.

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