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The Crabbe has gone back out to sea 

Post#1 » by Calinks » Sun Mar 1, 2020 12:36 am

I believed in the Crabbe but the Crabbe did not believe in me.

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Post#2 » by winforlose » Sun Mar 1, 2020 12:38 am

Calinks wrote:I believed in the Crabbe but the Crabbe did not believe in me.

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Post#3 » by Klomp » Sun Mar 1, 2020 1:00 am

It'll be interesting to see how much he gives back.
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Post#4 » by shangrila » Sun Mar 1, 2020 1:03 am

It was a worthwhile gamble, especially at the time, but he just couldn't get his 3pt shot to fall and that's really all he has.
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Post#5 » by Grubie024 » Sun Mar 1, 2020 1:48 am

Will this keep us out of luxury tax? Not sure how that works.
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Post#6 » by shrink » Sun Mar 1, 2020 2:43 am

shangrila wrote:It was a worthwhile gamble, especially at the time, but he just couldn't get his 3pt shot to fall and that's really all he has.

This is exactly right.

One important responsibility for Gersson Rosas this year was to evaluate his many new players, and determine which could be longterm parts of our system, and how much we should pay them. With one of the worst three point shooting in the league, defenses didn’t pus all the way out to our shooters. Even in a bad year, Crabbe would draw coverage outside, and help force opposing defenses to play something closer to what the team can expect in the future. Three point shooting isn’t as big a problem after the acquisitions at the deadline, so buying out Crabbe will still allow the player evaluation Rosas needs.
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Post#7 » by Klomp » Sun Mar 1, 2020 3:36 am

Grubie024 wrote:Will this keep us out of luxury tax? Not sure how that works.

Depends on how much Crabbe gives up in the buyout.
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Post#8 » by Rookie-Mistake » Sun Mar 1, 2020 5:41 am

The Crab didn't do anything for me. I'm guessing he give back 8 mil.

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Post#9 » by Dewey » Sun Mar 1, 2020 3:39 pm

He had a nice quick release and was familiar with the offense, but he wasn’t hitting the 3 and his defense was terrible. I would assume it was a discounted buyout...
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Post#10 » by Jedzz » Sun Mar 1, 2020 10:22 pm

I'm about to follow Crabbe. Did anyone pick him up yet?
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Post#11 » by minimus » Mon Mar 2, 2020 6:06 pm

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Post#12 » by Klomp » Mon Mar 2, 2020 10:00 pm

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I don't know where they were in regards to the luxury tax, but regarding the ability to sign McLaughlin and/or Martin, $750k is fairly significant. By my math, signing both to pro-rated rest-of-season deals would cost under $600k combined (and it goes down every day).
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Post#13 » by Dewey » Tue Mar 3, 2020 12:14 am

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I don't know where they were in regards to the luxury tax, but regarding the ability to sign McLaughlin and/or Martin, $750k is fairly significant. By my math, signing both to pro-rated rest-of-season deals would cost under $600k combined (and it goes down every day).

Clearly I do not understand buyouts ... at least crabbe must wanna play whereas turner just opted to collect easy money
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Post#14 » by shangrila » Tue Mar 3, 2020 1:26 am

Dewey wrote:
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I don't know where they were in regards to the luxury tax, but regarding the ability to sign McLaughlin and/or Martin, $750k is fairly significant. By my math, signing both to pro-rated rest-of-season deals would cost under $600k combined (and it goes down every day).

Clearly I do not understand buyouts ... at least crabbe must wanna play whereas turner just opted to collect easy money

Crabbe's been out for personal reasons the last few games IIRC. Might be something going on with him, especially combined with his overall down year.
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Re: The Crabbe has gone back out to sea 

Post#15 » by Jedzz » Tue Mar 3, 2020 1:39 am

shangrila wrote:
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Klomp wrote:I don't know where they were in regards to the luxury tax, but regarding the ability to sign McLaughlin and/or Martin, $750k is fairly significant. By my math, signing both to pro-rated rest-of-season deals would cost under $600k combined (and it goes down every day).

Clearly I do not understand buyouts ... at least crabbe must wanna play whereas turner just opted to collect easy money

Crabbe's been out for personal reasons the last few games IIRC. Might be something going on with him, especially combined with his overall down year.


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Re: The Crabbe has gone back out to sea 

Post#16 » by Calinks » Tue Mar 3, 2020 2:01 am

Crabbe's are not native to Minnesota.
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Post#17 » by Jedzz » Tue Mar 3, 2020 2:25 am

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Re: The Crabbe has gone back out to sea 

Post#18 » by winforlose » Tue Mar 3, 2020 9:38 am

Dewey wrote:
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I don't know where they were in regards to the luxury tax, but regarding the ability to sign McLaughlin and/or Martin, $750k is fairly significant. By my math, signing both to pro-rated rest-of-season deals would cost under $600k combined (and it goes down every day).

Clearly I do not understand buyouts ... at least crabbe must wanna play whereas turner just opted to collect easy money


There are some factors to consider. Let me preface this by saying I have no specific knowledge whatsoever about his situation. But in general. 1, giving back 750,000 isn’t actually losing 750k when you consider taxes, percentage to his agent, rent in a city he doesn’t live in, etc... 2, We don’t know his personal situation. A sick family member or problem with one of his relationships (family, friends, etc...,) may require him to spend more time in a different city. 3, It could be that he believes a better opportunity is out there. For instances, say he wants to play in Memphis (first city that popped into my head,) he might believe he has a leg up on getting signed there next season if he works out there and tries to get a minimum there this season.

Whatever the actual reason, it works out well for us. Saves us some money, creates a roster spot, and hopefully increases the minutes of some developing players.

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