shrink wrote: Ducklett wrote:
shrink wrote:You guys are over-valuing Gordon here. I’ve made the case that he is only worth the #17, plus either Spellman or the #33, and that is the general consensus of most of the neutral fans on the trade board. I would not be shocked if ORL didn’t accept that price, especially after losing Jonathan Isaac for next year, but his price isn’t worth including Culver.
But dreams about GSW are even more far fetched. The Warriors have big assets (the two picks), and tiny assets, and not much in between. Gordon + #15 is not going to get #2 or the MIN 1st, as some ORL fans dream. And unless the Magic are willing to take on Wiggins, the teams can’t salary match the use of other ORL players to add value.
You are both undervaluing Gordon and overvaluing the 17 in what could be a historically bad draft.
I wouldn't quote the T&T board as gospel when you have insiders, sports writers, and front offices disagreeing with your assessments.
No, I quote them as neutral observers. Can you make that claim?
But they aren't neutral observers. The worst offender of this is Texas Chuck. And he free admits his bias against AG in pretty much every thread. Sorry man. I can't imagine you think that the T&T board is more honest or factually accurate than sports writers, scouts, and front offices.
If AG's value is indeed decreasing like you guys say:
A) Why does it seem like there are 3-5 teams, at the very least, trying to get him
B) Why wouldn't the Magic just keep him to "rehab" his value
The logic you guys are proposing just even check out internally. It's fine. We will keep AG and you guys try to find a player sniffing AG's abilities as a passer, rebounder, and man defender from another team for just the 17. I wish you all the luck in the world, sincerely. You guys are kind of the Orlando of the west so I hope you guys find success.
Based on the T&T board, you guys are trading the #1 for OG and Powell from the Raptors, so you won't even need AG.