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Posted: **Thu Jan 7, 2021 5:01 pm**

_AIJ_ wrote:He will matchup well against Portland

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Nurkic? He aint no Jokic, but he will still just back him down and finish over or wait to get fouled. Size still matters, even if Vanderbilt does an admirable effort just hoping around trying to shield all avenues of passes/finishes for the giant he is facing.

Posted: **Thu Jan 7, 2021 5:14 pm**

Norseman79 wrote:Vanderbilt is a 4, who can play some small ball 5, but if they try running him out against guys like Gobert, Nurkic, Gasol, etc it won't be a good thing.

Those saying he doesn't have the offensive game of a 4, maybe according to ideal nba standards, but he passes well, can handle a bit, and seems to take care of the ball. He just can't shoot. But he crashes boards and hustles after everything. He is actually an ideal fit next to a perimeter oriented big like Towns.

That is why we started Davis to use his necessary 5 fouls against Jokic. Vando and Reed are young and eager to commit their fouls. But somewhere next season, I want to see Reed-Vando-Culver/McDaniels-Edwards-Nowell/JMac unit to have fun against opponent 2nd lineup.

Posted: **Thu Jan 7, 2021 6:53 pm**

jpatrick wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
Killboard wrote:
Juancho is also an expiring next season and his value will be related to how well he can shoot the ball. If he shoots above 38% he should be movable as well. Still, and specially with Ricky, trading him likely means a matching salary is coming in, for which cap space would be near the same. Maybe Juancho or Layman can be traded into cap space easier (provided they show signs of life).

Juancho just signed a 4 year contract. Not an expiring.

I believe he signed a 3 year deal with the third year being a team option. So, in theory, he could be an expiring after next season.

Yup, that's the case. His contract isn't guaranteed after next season.

Posted: **Thu Jan 7, 2021 7:56 pm**

jpatrick wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
Killboard wrote:
Juancho is also an expiring next season and his value will be related to how well he can shoot the ball. If he shoots above 38% he should be movable as well. Still, and specially with Ricky, trading him likely means a matching salary is coming in, for which cap space would be near the same. Maybe Juancho or Layman can be traded into cap space easier (provided they show signs of life).

Juancho just signed a 4 year contract. Not an expiring.

I believe he signed a 3 year deal with the third year being a team option. So, in theory, he could be an expiring after next season.

I was thinking it was 4 years 4th being team option. However it is 3 years third being team option. So he's guaranteed this year and next and only becomes a FA for the season after that if the Wolves no longer want him.

Posted: **Thu Jan 7, 2021 8:03 pm**

Killboard wrote:
jpatrick wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:Juancho just signed a 4 year contract. Not an expiring.

I believe he signed a 3 year deal with the third year being a team option. So, in theory, he could be an expiring after next season.

Yup, that's the case. His contract isn't guaranteed after next season.

To me Killboard your post made it seem like he is already gone. To me that is misleading. We have him for this year and 2 more as long as we want him.

Posted: **Thu Jan 7, 2021 8:15 pm**

KGdaBom wrote:
Killboard wrote:
jpatrick wrote:
I believe he signed a 3 year deal with the third year being a team option. So, in theory, he could be an expiring after next season.

Yup, that's the case. His contract isn't guaranteed after next season.

To me Killboard your post made it seem like he is already gone. To me that is misleading. We have him for this year and 2 more as long as we want him.

Fair, the thing is he is both, an expiring next season and under contract for 2 more season after this one, the Wolves or any team he ends up with will make that call, and that helps his value if he can shoot as last season.

Posted: **Fri Jan 8, 2021 4:46 am**

I believe that Vanderbilt has demonstrated that he's legit.

Posted: **Fri Jan 8, 2021 4:47 am**

KGdaBom wrote:I believe that Vanderbilt has demonstrated that he's legit.

Legit what?

Posted: **Fri Jan 8, 2021 12:39 pm**

minimus wrote:I want to see Reed-Vando-Culver/McDaniels-Edwards-Nowell/JMac unit to have fun against opponent's 2nd lineup.

At least this aged well so far.

Posted: **Fri Jan 8, 2021 2:53 pm**

I view Vanderbilt more as Nerlens-lite than Bam-lite. Very athletic. High motor. Frame that won’t hold more than 225. Very limited offensive game. Definitely a guy that can help a team (even a good team), but mostly through effort and athleticism - not skill. Underdogs are usually easy to cheer for, and Vando is no exception.

Posted: **Fri Jan 8, 2021 3:21 pm**

gandlogo wrote:I view Vanderbilt more as Nerlens-lite than Bam-lite. Very athletic. High motor. Frame that won’t hold more than 225. Very limited offensive game. Definitely a guy that can help a team (even a good team), but mostly through effort and athleticism - not skill. Underdogs are usually easy to cheer for, and Vando is no exception.

Nerlens-lite when we speak about physical tools, but skills-wise in a few games of this season, Vando has shown that he can guard perimeter players, handle and pass the ball. Once he plays with Reid as backup PF against opponent's bench, he will impact the game much more.

Posted: **Fri Jan 8, 2021 4:25 pm**

thinktank wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:I believe that Vanderbilt has demonstrated that he's legit.

Legit what?

A person with skills of a high enough quality to be worthy of an NBA roster spot.

Posted: **Fri Jan 8, 2021 4:40 pm**

KGdaBom wrote:
thinktank wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:I believe that Vanderbilt has demonstrated that he's legit.

Legit what?

A person with skills of a high enough quality to be worthy of an NBA roster spot.

I think he’s a legit NBA player. He hasn’t really proven anything else. Can’t defend centers or provide offense outside hustle and dunks. But this is going to be a lost season, give him run, see what he’s got.

Posted: **Fri Jan 8, 2021 5:12 pm**

KGdaBom wrote:
thinktank wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:I believe that Vanderbilt has demonstrated that he's legit.

Legit what?

A person with skills of a high enough quality to be worthy of an NBA roster spot.

That’s a low bar.

Posted: **Fri Jan 8, 2021 6:20 pm**

thinktank wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
thinktank wrote:
Legit what?

A person with skills of a high enough quality to be worthy of an NBA roster spot.

That’s a low bar.

Sadly for the Wolves lately, it's the only bar we've got :lol:

Posted: **Fri Jan 8, 2021 6:28 pm**

urinesane wrote:
thinktank wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:A person with skills of a high enough quality to be worthy of an NBA roster spot.

That’s a low bar.

Sadly for the Wolves lately, it's the only bar we've got

It's not a low bar at all. Very few people in the entire world have that much quality to their basketball game.

Posted: **Fri Jan 8, 2021 6:37 pm**

KGdaBom wrote:
urinesane wrote:
thinktank wrote:
That’s a low bar.

Sadly for the Wolves lately, it's the only bar we've got

It's not a low bar at all. Very few people in the entire world have that much quality to their basketball game.

Right, but it would be cool if the Wolves could consistently have a roster with NBA worthy players (who aren't just bench players elevated to bigger roles due to lack of competent play). It's a lot to ask I know.

Posted: **Sat Jan 9, 2021 12:32 am**

KGdaBom wrote:
urinesane wrote:
thinktank wrote:
That’s a low bar.

Sadly for the Wolves lately, it's the only bar we've got

It's not a low bar at all. Very few people in the entire world have that much quality to their basketball game.

Are you serious with this argument?

I hope not, for your sake.

Posted: **Sat Jan 9, 2021 4:29 pm**

thinktank wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
urinesane wrote:
Sadly for the Wolves lately, it's the only bar we've got

It's not a low bar at all. Very few people in the entire world have that much quality to their basketball game.

Are you serious with this argument?

I hope not, for your sake.

Entirely serious and my sake is just fine.

Posted: **Sat Jan 9, 2021 5:45 pm**

I still think Vanderbilts best position would be the 3 for us.

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