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Re: Game 9 : San Antonio Spurs (4-4) @ Minnesota Timberwolves (2-6) - 8:00 PM 

Post#181 » by Calinks » Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:49 am

I need Rubio to give me a little more scoring. Getting seven points between Jauncho, Layman, and Vanderbilt is terrible. We need a competent 4 so bad.
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Post#183 » by wolves_89 » Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:51 am

Calinks wrote:I need Rubio to give me a little more scoring. Getting seven points between Jauncho, Layman, and Vanderbilt is terrible. We need a competent 4 so bad.

I can live with Vanderbilt's lack of scoring since he contributes with defense and rebounding. When Hernangomez and Layman aren't scoring they have very little value on the court.
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Post#184 » by Neeva » Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:52 am

Jauncho defensively is sad.
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Post#185 » by Killboard » Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:57 am

Demar bailout call that tied the game:
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Post#186 » by _AIJ_ » Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:01 am

Why didnt ryan call timeout though??


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Re: Game 9 : San Antonio Spurs (4-4) @ Minnesota Timberwolves (2-6) - 8:00 PM 

Post#187 » by Nick K » Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:07 am

Killboard wrote:Demar bailout call that tied the game:
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The foul was when Culver swiped down with his arm on top of DeRozan's right arm just before the clean strip.
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Post#188 » by Killboard » Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:18 am

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Killboard wrote:Demar bailout call that tied the game:
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The foul was when Culver swiped down with his arm on top of DeRozan's right arm just before the clean strip.


You mean the right arm that was pushing Culver? I mean, I'm fine with contact, I'm not so fine when contact is only allowed to one player.
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Re: Game 9 : San Antonio Spurs (4-4) @ Minnesota Timberwolves (2-6) - 8:00 PM 

Post#189 » by Domejandro » Sun Jan 10, 2021 6:47 am

Killboard wrote:
Nick K wrote:
Killboard wrote:Demar bailout call that tied the game:
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The foul was when Culver swiped down with his arm on top of DeRozan's right arm just before the clean strip.


You mean the right arm that was pushing Culver? I mean, I'm fine with contact, I'm not so fine when contact is only allowed to one player.

I feel like we are watching two different gifs, because Jarrett Culver literally swings his arm across DeMar Derozan's body there.
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Post#190 » by Killboard » Sun Jan 10, 2021 1:53 pm

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Killboard wrote:
Nick K wrote:
The foul was when Culver swiped down with his arm on top of DeRozan's right arm just before the clean strip.


You mean the right arm that was pushing Culver? I mean, I'm fine with contact, I'm not so fine when contact is only allowed to one player.

I feel like we are watching two different gifs, because Jarrett Culver literally swings his arm across DeMar Derozan's body there.


DeRozan extend his right arm towards Culver belly and that's a foul. Isn't glaring by it is. Then Culver extend his right arm through DeRozan body, but in that image isn't clear what or if he his something. Then he swings a second time and is all ball. Not sure which was called and I will concede if the call was made before DeRozan create space with his right arm, because after that neither of those contact plays seems like a true foul.
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Post#191 » by Nick K » Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:56 pm

Killboard wrote:
Nick K wrote:
Killboard wrote:Demar bailout call that tied the game:
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The foul was when Culver swiped down with his arm on top of DeRozan's right arm just before the clean strip.


You mean the right arm that was pushing Culver? I mean, I'm fine with contact, I'm not so fine when contact is only allowed to one player.


Yep. They usually call the obvious reach in by Culver and let the far less obvious push off go.
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Post#192 » by TheDominator273 » Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:56 pm

Killboard wrote:
Domejandro wrote:
Killboard wrote:
You mean the right arm that was pushing Culver? I mean, I'm fine with contact, I'm not so fine when contact is only allowed to one player.

I feel like we are watching two different gifs, because Jarrett Culver literally swings his arm across DeMar Derozan's body there.


DeRozan extend his right arm towards Culver belly and that's a foul. Isn't glaring by it is. Then Culver extend his right arm through DeRozan body, but in that image isn't clear what or if he his something. Then he swings a second time and is all ball. Not sure which was called and I will concede if the call was made before DeRozan create space with his right arm, because after that neither of those contact plays seems like a true foul.
DeRozan doesn't extend his arm to push off on this play though, Culver is the only one that fouls when he swipes down across DeRozan's arm.
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Post#193 » by Killboard » Sun Jan 10, 2021 5:20 pm

TheDominator273 wrote:DeRozan doesn't extend his arm to push off on this play though, Culver is the only one that fouls when he swipes down across DeRozan's arm.

You don't have to completely extend your arm to extend your arm. Offensive players aren't allowed to use his off arm to protect the ball by creating contact on the defender, which happens very often and I'm OK with IF they defensive player is also allowed to get contact (not grab or push, which Culver didn't do). Culver neither touch DeRozan right arm in his first swipe, but he could have grabbed DeRozan right arm wich he had in his belly.
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Post#194 » by TheDominator273 » Sun Jan 10, 2021 5:56 pm

Killboard wrote:
TheDominator273 wrote:DeRozan doesn't extend his arm to push off on this play though, Culver is the only one that fouls when he swipes down across DeRozan's arm.

You don't have to completely extend your arm to extend your arm. Offensive players aren't allowed to use his off arm to protect the ball by creating contact on the defender, which happens very often and I'm OK with IF they defensive player is also allowed to get contact (not grab or push, which Culver didn't do). Culver neither touch DeRozan right arm in his first swipe, but he could have grabbed DeRozan right arm wich he had in his belly.


DeRozan's right arm is in text book position, it is absolutely allowed to be there and protect the ball. It's textbook because it keeps the defender from getting too close to the ball and if they do swipe at the ball they are almost for sure going to foul by creating contact on the off arm.

DeMar definitely got some ticky tack calls his way but that one wasn't one of them.
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Post#195 » by Note30 » Sun Jan 10, 2021 6:03 pm

Killboard wrote:
TheDominator273 wrote:DeRozan doesn't extend his arm to push off on this play though, Culver is the only one that fouls when he swipes down across DeRozan's arm.

You don't have to completely extend your arm to extend your arm. Offensive players aren't allowed to use his off arm to protect the ball by creating contact on the defender, which happens very often and I'm OK with IF they defensive player is also allowed to get contact (not grab or push, which Culver didn't do). Culver neither touch DeRozan right arm in his first swipe, but he could have grabbed DeRozan right arm wich he had in his belly.


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Post#196 » by moonpie » Sun Jan 10, 2021 8:36 pm

Derozan is out for the Sunday game due to a personal family matter FWIW
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Post#197 » by Neeva » Sun Jan 10, 2021 8:39 pm

moonpie wrote:Derozan is out for the Sunday game due to a personal family matter FWIW


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Post#198 » by Dual » Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:47 pm

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moonpie wrote:Derozan is out for the Sunday game due to a personal family matter FWIW


Will Kat even play though?

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Post#199 » by moonpie » Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:54 pm

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Post#200 » by Killboard » Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:53 pm

Note30 wrote:
Killboard wrote:
TheDominator273 wrote:DeRozan doesn't extend his arm to push off on this play though, Culver is the only one that fouls when he swipes down across DeRozan's arm.

You don't have to completely extend your arm to extend your arm. Offensive players aren't allowed to use his off arm to protect the ball by creating contact on the defender, which happens very often and I'm OK with IF they defensive player is also allowed to get contact (not grab or push, which Culver didn't do). Culver neither touch DeRozan right arm in his first swipe, but he could have grabbed DeRozan right arm wich he had in his belly.


When was the last time you played basketball?


I played pick up before the pandemy, and play organized as a teenager more than a decade ago, but how that make more or less of a foul?

Plus, this settles it:

https://official.nba.com/l2m/L2MReport.html?gameId=0022000138

The league says "Culver (MIN) makes contact with the ball during DeRozan's (SAS) shooting motion and dislodges the ball defending his driving shot attempt. Any ensuing contact is deemed incidental."

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