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Re: The Fire Rosas Thread 

Post#21 » by Merc_Porto » Thu Mar 25, 2021 7:56 pm

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winforlose wrote:
Merc_Porto wrote:But but but covid / injuries... Our "best" players didnt play together...

One thing that is going to be funny and im actually looking for to see it now is Dlo-Edwards-Kat sharing the court at same time.
Is going to be pure entertainment. Shooting, usage and defense wise. lol


Look at the Warriors the past two years. Should they fire their GM?


The Warriors will regain a star player better than any player sans KAT (and that's debatable) that we currently have.

They will probably get another high draft pick from us, which they can then pair to get another star or good role players.

They are about to make the playoffs this year they aren't the worst team in the league numbnuts.


I'm tempted to add - their GM is a 3 time champion in the last 7-8 years.
And even if they dont make the playoffs this season they can get 2 top 12-picks in the next draft.

We on the other hand could end up being the worst team in the league and lose our own pick.

I couldn't resist.
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Re: The Fire Rosas Thread 

Post#22 » by Note30 » Thu Mar 25, 2021 7:57 pm

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Worm Guts wrote:Did you want him to make a move just to try and save his job? Rosas has made a lot of moves that would justify his firing, but I don't think not making a move today was one of them.
Although I think you could probably justify firing him today just to prevent him from wasting another draft pick and give the next gm time some time to prepare for the offseason.


No but he could have made a move to trade Beasley or Rubio, both who don't fit even if we do stick with his core.

He didn't even do anything to make his previous choices better.


I wouldn't trade Rubio while we're still trying to develop Ant, at least if we buy into the narrative that Rubio is a positive influence on Ant.

Beasley, I could go either way on. I don't know what the long term plan is there. There's still time to shuffle the deck before next year, when we'll have a fresh opportunity to be competitive.

Unless you bench DLo or start him at SG, Rubio won't mentor Ant on the floor, if Ant is starting. And if he's not then that's a lower development rate.
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Re: The Fire Rosas Thread 

Post#23 » by IceManBK1 » Thu Mar 25, 2021 7:58 pm

We could've had Collins for 1st and Beasley. Sometimes you just gotta give up more to get something equal in value for return. I had high hopes that we would have been able to get Gordon. If we had a more respected GM.. Probably we could have made a trade.
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Post#24 » by Klomp » Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:01 pm

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Note30 wrote:1. 40% isn't high. Pretty large chance we lose it and that's only if we have the worst record.

Wrong. The percentages are the same, whether we finish with the worst, second-worst or third-worst record.



Didn't know that, thank you Klomp.

But it still doesn't change the fact that those three positions are a win or two apart.

Don't look at the win totals when comparing teams at the top of the lottery during the season. Because of teams rarely playing the same total of games at any moment (unlike the NFL), the important number is the number of losses. Minnesota has a three-loss lead on both Houston (big series coming this week) and Detroit. But like I said, we can be third and have the same odds, so being in the third position doesn't affect anything beyond the specific lottery number combinations they'll get on the day of the lottery drawing. More importantly, a five-loss lead on Orlando, the team currently in the fourth position (seven-game lead on any other teams).
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Re: The Fire Rosas Thread 

Post#25 » by Note30 » Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:01 pm

IceManBK1 wrote:We could've had Collins for 1st and Beasley. Sometimes you just gotta give up more to get something equal in value for return. I had high hopes that we would have been able to get Gordon. If we had a more respected GM.. Probably we could have made a trade.



I'm honestly not too broken up about Gordon or Collins.

I just wanted this dude to give a ****. And by standing pay and not even try to fix minor rotational issues proves he either doesn't or doesn't know how to.

We didn't have to make a big splashy move. We just should have done something. Culver, Okogies, any of our poor rotational fits.

Like do something man. How could you not identify one thing to fix?
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Post#26 » by Klomp » Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:03 pm

Note30 wrote:Unless you bench DLo or start him at SG, Rubio won't mentor Ant on the floor, if Ant is starting. And if he's not then that's a lower development rate.

I'd say sharing the court together is only a small part of development.
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Post#27 » by Klomp » Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:05 pm

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IceManBK1 wrote:We could've had Collins for 1st and Beasley. Sometimes you just gotta give up more to get something equal in value for return. I had high hopes that we would have been able to get Gordon. If we had a more respected GM.. Probably we could have made a trade.



I'm honestly not too broken up about Gordon or Collins.

I just wanted this dude to give a ****. And by standing pay and not even try to fix minor rotational issues proves he either doesn't or doesn't know how to.

We didn't have to make a big splashy move. We just should have done something. Culver, Okogies, any of our poor rotational fits.

Like do something man. How could you not identify one thing to fix?

It also could show that he does give a ****. Paying $50 for a pizza doesn't mean you care more about your hunger than someone who isn't willing to pay that price.
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Post#28 » by Battletrigger » Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:07 pm

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Post#29 » by winforlose » Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:08 pm

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Merc_Porto wrote:But but but covid / injuries... Our "best" players didnt play together...

One thing that is going to be funny and im actually looking for to see it now is Dlo-Edwards-Kat sharing the court at same time.
Is going to be pure entertainment. Shooting, usage and defense wise. lol


Look at the Warriors the past two years. Should they fire their GM?


The Warriors will regain a star player better than any player sans KAT (and that's debatable) that we currently have.

They will probably get another high draft pick from us, which they can then pair to get another star or good role players.

They are about to make the playoffs this year they aren't the worst team in the league numbnuts.


Yeah, I am sure Klay is gonna be as good as ever after two years away and return date around the start of the regular season (probably later.)

Even if they do get another draft pick from us they aren’t about to turn that draft pick into a world beater next year and Curry isn’t getting any younger.

They are in a dog fight for the playoffs and are one serious injury to Steph from being a lottery team.

Oh and they are spending more than double our salary in a year where they aren’t allowed fans. I am sure the ownership of GSW is tickled pink.

What your missing in my original post was the point. The person I was responding to said injuries and Covid are an excuse. Look at what happened to GSW last season when their best players were out. Look at what happened this season when their second best player missed the year. If you add the games our best 3 have been out we are way ahead of GSW. But I wouldn’t expect someone who resorts to name calling to actually think things through.
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Re: The Fire Rosas Thread 

Post#30 » by younggunsmn » Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:08 pm

I'd say Rosas gets das boot within 48 hours of Taylor selling the team.
Or 48 hours of the Warriors getting our lottery pick.
Whichever comes first.
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Re: The Fire Rosas Thread 

Post#31 » by Worm Guts » Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:09 pm

Note30 wrote:
IceManBK1 wrote:We could've had Collins for 1st and Beasley. Sometimes you just gotta give up more to get something equal in value for return. I had high hopes that we would have been able to get Gordon. If we had a more respected GM.. Probably we could have made a trade.



I'm honestly not too broken up about Gordon or Collins.

I just wanted this dude to give a ****. And by standing pay and not even try to fix minor rotational issues proves he either doesn't or doesn't know how to.

We didn't have to make a big splashy move. We just should have done something. Culver, Okogies, any of our poor rotational fits.

Like do something man. How could you not identify one thing to fix?


This season is lost though. We may be better off waiting until the offseason depending on how you feel about trying to keep our pick and what types of fixes you’re suggesting.
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Re: The Fire Rosas Thread 

Post#32 » by Baseline81 » Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:10 pm

IceManBK1 wrote:We could've had Collins for 1st and Beasley. Sometimes you just gotta give up more to get something equal in value for return. I had high hopes that we would have been able to get Gordon. If we had a more respected GM.. Probably we could have made a trade.

According to Dane Moore, that was never an offer, at least from those he spoke with in the organization.
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Post#33 » by Klomp » Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:11 pm

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Post#34 » by Klomp » Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:20 pm

Note30 wrote:We didn't have to make a big splashy move. We just should have done something. Culver, Okogies, any of our poor rotational fits.

Like do something man. How could you not identify one thing to fix?

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Re: The Fire Rosas Thread 

Post#35 » by Merc_Porto » Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:34 pm

younggunsmn wrote:I'd say Rosas gets das boot within 48 hours of Taylor selling the team.
Or 48 hours of the Warriors getting our lottery pick.
Whichever comes first.


Let's hope is the first option.
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Re: The Fire Rosas Thread 

Post#36 » by Neeva » Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:42 pm

Well this upcoming draft is basically a 4 man draft. So wolves only lose if they end up 4th:/
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Post#37 » by Baseline81 » Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:49 pm

Neeva wrote:Well this upcoming draft is basically a 4 man draft. So wolves only lose if they end up 4th:/

Are you including or excluding Kuminga?
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Post#38 » by Neeva » Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:51 pm

Ehh dont care for Kuminga.
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Re: The Fire Rosas Thread 

Post#39 » by winforlose » Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:54 pm

You know we are ignoring an important question in this thread. Who hired Ryan, Rosas or Taylor. If Rosas, fire his a** for that alone. If Taylor, ask yourself how much of our current situation is his fault.
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Re: The Fire Rosas Thread 

Post#40 » by Merc_Porto » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:03 pm

winforlose wrote:You know we are ignoring an important question in this thread. Who hired Ryan, Rosas or Taylor. If Rosas, fire his a** for that alone. If Taylor, ask yourself how much of our current situation is his fault.


Maybe you should ask yourself first who put together this roster and gave such valuable pick to do it...

I know i know, why? You think this roster is amazing built. We aren't on the way to a 62-10 record because of the evil Ryan Saunders.

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