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Re: Free Agency Thread 

Post#901 » by KGdaBom » Sat Sep 11, 2021 6:09 pm

Klomp wrote:
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I don't think it would require a "MAJOR" roster shake up for us to fill that one spot. Probably a very minor one.
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Post#902 » by KGdaBom » Sat Sep 11, 2021 6:10 pm

andyhop wrote:
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andyhop wrote:
The problem is that pretty much all of the info we have has him as a better defensive player than an offensive one

Huh? He's talking about Jahlil, not Emeka.


And so am I.

He is a terrible offensive player

You're doubling down on this Andy and you shouldn't be. Jahlil's offense is far superior to his defense.
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Post#903 » by shrink » Sat Sep 11, 2021 6:59 pm

KGdaBom wrote:I don't think it would require a "MAJOR" roster shake up for us to fill that one spot. Probably a very minor one.

Exactly, and I would be pretty surprised if we make no moves at all before next season ends, when lux taxes are determined.

I’d also mention that $750k provides plenty of room for 10 day contracts if need be.
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Re: Free Agency Thread 

Post#904 » by andyhop » Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:41 am

KGdaBom wrote:
andyhop wrote:
Klomp wrote:Huh? He's talking about Jahlil, not Emeka.


And so am I.

He is a terrible offensive player

You're doubling down on this Andy and you shouldn't be. Jahlil's offense is far superior to his defense.


Not according to any of the numbers
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Re: Free Agency Thread 

Post#905 » by KGdaBom » Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:45 am

andyhop wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
andyhop wrote:
And so am I.

He is a terrible offensive player

You're doubling down on this Andy and you shouldn't be. Jahlil's offense is far superior to his defense.


Not according to any of the numbers

Tripling down.
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Re: Free Agency Thread 

Post#906 » by andyhop » Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:47 am

KGdaBom wrote:
andyhop wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:You're doubling down on this Andy and you shouldn't be. Jahlil's offense is far superior to his defense.


Not according to any of the numbers

Tripling down.


Given nobody has attempted to dispute my assertion with any evidence i am very happy with my side of the argument given the preponderance of facts backs up my side
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Re: Free Agency Thread 

Post#907 » by KGdaBom » Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:48 am

andyhop wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
andyhop wrote:
Not according to any of the numbers

Tripling down.


Given nobody has attempted to dispute my assertion with any evidence i am very happy with my side of the argument given the preponderance of facts backs up my side

If you say so. Quadrupling down????????????? :o
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Re: Free Agency Thread 

Post#908 » by andyhop » Sun Sep 12, 2021 9:05 am

KGdaBom wrote:
andyhop wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:Tripling down.


Given nobody has attempted to dispute my assertion with any evidence i am very happy with my side of the argument given the preponderance of facts backs up my side

If you say so. Quadrupling down????????????? :o


Given it would be stupid to argue against all of the evidence backing up my point of view i can see why you are avoiding trying
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Re: Free Agency Thread 

Post#909 » by KGdaBom » Sun Sep 12, 2021 9:18 am

andyhop wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
andyhop wrote:
Given nobody has attempted to dispute my assertion with any evidence i am very happy with my side of the argument given the preponderance of facts backs up my side

If you say so. Quadrupling down????????????? :o


Given it would be stupid to argue against all of the evidence backing up my point of view i can see why you are avoiding trying

Okafor's stats last 4 seasons as much as I could copy and paste. Note the EFG's. Very effective on offense. His defense was so bad that he still couldn't get many minutes.

Season Age Tm Lg Pos G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% eFG% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB
2017-18 22 BRK NBA C 26 0 12.6 2.8 5.0 .566 0.0 0.2 .250 2.8 4.8 .576 .570 0.7 1.0 .760 0.7 2.3 2.9 0.4 0.1 0.6 0.7 1.7 6.4
2018-19 23 NOP NBA C 59 24 15.8 3.6 6.1 .586 0.0 0.1 .200 3.6 6.1 .591 .587 1.0 1.5 .663 1.4 3.3 4.7 0.7 0.3 0.7 0.9 1.6 8.2
2019-20 24 NOP NBA C 30 9 15.6 3.4 5.4 .623 0.0 0.1 .333 3.3 5.3 .629 .627 1.3 2.1 .645 1.6 2.6 4.2 1.2 0.2 0.7 1.3 2.2 8.1
2020-21 25 DET NBA C 27 2 12.9 2.3 3.8 .618 0.1 0.3 .222 2.3 3.4 .656 .627 0.6 0.9 .708 0.9 1.6 2.4 0.5 0.2 0.2 0.8 1.4 5.
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Re: Free Agency Thread 

Post#910 » by andyhop » Sun Sep 12, 2021 9:19 am

KGdaBom wrote:
andyhop wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:If you say so. Quadrupling down????????????? :o


Given it would be stupid to argue against all of the evidence backing up my point of view i can see why you are avoiding trying

Okafor's stats last 4 seasons as much as I could copy and paste. Note the EFG's. Very effective on offense. His defense was so bad that he still couldn't get many minutes.

Season Age Tm Lg Pos G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% eFG% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB
2017-18 22 BRK NBA C 26 0 12.6 2.8 5.0 .566 0.0 0.2 .250 2.8 4.8 .576 .570 0.7 1.0 .760 0.7 2.3 2.9 0.4 0.1 0.6 0.7 1.7 6.4
2018-19 23 NOP NBA C 59 24 15.8 3.6 6.1 .586 0.0 0.1 .200 3.6 6.1 .591 .587 1.0 1.5 .663 1.4 3.3 4.7 0.7 0.3 0.7 0.9 1.6 8.2
2019-20 24 NOP NBA C 30 9 15.6 3.4 5.4 .623 0.0 0.1 .333 3.3 5.3 .629 .627 1.3 2.1 .645 1.6 2.6 4.2 1.2 0.2 0.7 1.3 2.2 8.1
2020-21 25 DET NBA C 27 2 12.9 2.3 3.8 .618 0.1 0.3 .222 2.3 3.4 .656 .627 0.6 0.9 .708 0.9 1.6 2.4 0.5 0.2 0.2 0.8 1.4 5.


Now post what impact he had on the teams offense
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Re: Free Agency Thread 

Post#911 » by KGdaBom » Sun Sep 12, 2021 9:20 am

andyhop wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
andyhop wrote:
Given it would be stupid to argue against all of the evidence backing up my point of view i can see why you are avoiding trying

Okafor's stats last 4 seasons as much as I could copy and paste. Note the EFG's. Very effective on offense. His defense was so bad that he still couldn't get many minutes.

Season Age Tm Lg Pos G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% eFG% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB
2017-18 22 BRK NBA C 26 0 12.6 2.8 5.0 .566 0.0 0.2 .250 2.8 4.8 .576 .570 0.7 1.0 .760 0.7 2.3 2.9 0.4 0.1 0.6 0.7 1.7 6.4
2018-19 23 NOP NBA C 59 24 15.8 3.6 6.1 .586 0.0 0.1 .200 3.6 6.1 .591 .587 1.0 1.5 .663 1.4 3.3 4.7 0.7 0.3 0.7 0.9 1.6 8.2
2019-20 24 NOP NBA C 30 9 15.6 3.4 5.4 .623 0.0 0.1 .333 3.3 5.3 .629 .627 1.3 2.1 .645 1.6 2.6 4.2 1.2 0.2 0.7 1.3 2.2 8.1
2020-21 25 DET NBA C 27 2 12.9 2.3 3.8 .618 0.1 0.3 .222 2.3 3.4 .656 .627 0.6 0.9 .708 0.9 1.6 2.4 0.5 0.2 0.2 0.8 1.4 5.


Now post what impact he had on the teams offense

very effective. Wow did you reply quick. I think the EFG% alone proves how wrong you are. You asked I answered. No need to carry this on any longer.
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Re: Free Agency Thread 

Post#912 » by andyhop » Sun Sep 12, 2021 9:25 am

KGdaBom wrote:
andyhop wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:Okafor's stats last 4 seasons as much as I could copy and paste. Note the EFG's. Very effective on offense. His defense was so bad that he still couldn't get many minutes.

Season Age Tm Lg Pos G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% eFG% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB
2017-18 22 BRK NBA C 26 0 12.6 2.8 5.0 .566 0.0 0.2 .250 2.8 4.8 .576 .570 0.7 1.0 .760 0.7 2.3 2.9 0.4 0.1 0.6 0.7 1.7 6.4
2018-19 23 NOP NBA C 59 24 15.8 3.6 6.1 .586 0.0 0.1 .200 3.6 6.1 .591 .587 1.0 1.5 .663 1.4 3.3 4.7 0.7 0.3 0.7 0.9 1.6 8.2
2019-20 24 NOP NBA C 30 9 15.6 3.4 5.4 .623 0.0 0.1 .333 3.3 5.3 .629 .627 1.3 2.1 .645 1.6 2.6 4.2 1.2 0.2 0.7 1.3 2.2 8.1
2020-21 25 DET NBA C 27 2 12.9 2.3 3.8 .618 0.1 0.3 .222 2.3 3.4 .656 .627 0.6 0.9 .708 0.9 1.6 2.4 0.5 0.2 0.2 0.8 1.4 5.


Now post what impact he had on the teams offense

very effective. Wow did you reply quick. I think the EFG% alone proves how wrong you are. You asked I answered. No need to carry this on any longer.


Indeed as you don't understand what the numbers you are posting mean
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Re: Free Agency Thread 

Post#913 » by TheProdigy » Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:09 am

andyhop wrote:
Klomp wrote:
andyhop wrote:
The problem is that pretty much all of the info we have has him as a better defensive player than an offensive one

Huh? He's talking about Jahlil, not Emeka.


And so am I.

He is a terrible offensive player

It's hard to find reliable defensive impact statistics since he's hardly played the last few years. The last year he played more than 50 games was 2018-2019. That season, Jahlil Okafor was the 27th ranked center on offense, and the 58th ranked center in the league according to ESPN's RPM.

Also, anyone that can remember the 2015 draft will know that Okafor was considered an elite offensive player but horrible defensive player. Most of the draft analysts considered Okafor to be a better offensive player but worse defensive player than KAT.
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Re: Free Agency Thread 

Post#914 » by KGdaBom » Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:13 am

andyhop wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
andyhop wrote:
Now post what impact he had on the teams offense

very effective. Wow did you reply quick. I think the EFG% alone proves how wrong you are. You asked I answered. No need to carry this on any longer.


Indeed as you don't understand what the numbers you are posting mean

Please enlighten myself, Klomp, Prodigy and everybody else as to how Okafor is a better defensive player than he is offensive player. Show us what we don't understand and try to lift us to your level.
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Re: Free Agency Thread 

Post#915 » by shangrila » Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:19 am

Yeah...I don't get that.

You want to argue Okafor's offence isn't good? Sure, I could see that. His defence better than his offence? ...not seeing that one.
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Re: Free Agency Thread 

Post#916 » by SO_MONEY » Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:53 pm

Guys, I think we are missing the point, why would we need a defensive stopper like Okafor when we already have one in Towns?
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Re: Free Agency Thread 

Post#917 » by TheProdigy » Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:17 pm

SO_MONEY wrote:Guys, I think we are missing the point, why would we need a defensive stopper like Okafor when we already have one in Towns?

Unfortunately for Okafor, the game passed him by just as he was entering the league. Bigs who can't spread the floor AND can't play defense are almost unplayable.

If Okafor would have entered the league 10 years earlier, he probably would have had an Al Jefferson type of career.
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Re: Free Agency Thread 

Post#918 » by SO_MONEY » Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:28 pm

TheProdigy wrote:
SO_MONEY wrote:Guys, I think we are missing the point, why would we need a defensive stopper like Okafor when we already have one in Towns?

Unfortunately for Okafor, the game passed him by just as he was entering the league. Bigs who can't spread the floor AND can't play defense are almost unplayable.

If Okafor would have entered the league 10 years earlier, he probably would have had an Al Jefferson type of career.


Yeah, Al Jefferson with defense...
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Re: Free Agency Thread 

Post#919 » by Battletrigger » Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:15 pm

I don't see the point of this kind of argument in this post with a totally useless player for the Wolves.

And I don't see the point of the better defense than offense, this argue only exist cause people see too much statistics and few games.
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Re: Free Agency Thread 

Post#920 » by _AIJ_ » Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:57 pm

Who could be this well known free agent who wants to work out for the Wolves. Isaiah thomas?
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