Aggressive or conservative?

Post #1 » by **Klomp** » Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:22 pm

What are we feeling just two days before the draft? Are we going to be aggressive or conservative this offseason?

The more I think about it, the more I think we might be aggressive. Not recklessly though, but finding the right pieces to supplement the core group. Connelly has a conservative reputation, but I wonder if that may have been at least somewhat under direction from the ownership. Additionally, he's touted as a relationship guy, but he hasn't had a chance yet to make those strong bonds here which may increase the movement odds.

winforlose · Post #2 » by **winforlose** » Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:43 pm

Klomp wrote:What are we feeling just two days before the draft? Are we going to be aggressive or conservative this offseason?

The more I think about it, the more I think we might be aggressive. Not recklessly though, but finding the right pieces to supplement the core group. Connelly has a conservative reputation, but I wonder if that may have been at least somewhat under direction from the ownership. Additionally, he's touted as a relationship guy, but he hasn't had a chance yet to make those strong bonds here which may increase the movement odds.

Depends on a number of variables.

1. What are we doing with Dlo

2. What are we doing with Nowell. It is important to note I am not speaking about his contract, but rather his need for minutes. He can be a dynamic high scoring starter or he could be a regular bench guy, or he could be an end of bench microwave scorer who has no place in the main rotation. Hard to know what we do on draft night without knowing or plans for Nowell.

3. What are we doing with Naz.

I would guess we go conservative, but only because aggressive requires bargaining power we don’t have yet. Outside of KAT and Ant we don’t have a lot of trading power at the moment, and our pick isn’t the valuable. Sadly we could have had Christian wood for it, but apparently we missed that chance.

MN7725 · Post #3 » by **MN7725** » Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:51 pm

winforlose wrote:
Klomp wrote:What are we feeling just two days before the draft? Are we going to be aggressive or conservative this offseason?

The more I think about it, the more I think we might be aggressive. Not recklessly though, but finding the right pieces to supplement the core group. Connelly has a conservative reputation, but I wonder if that may have been at least somewhat under direction from the ownership. Additionally, he's touted as a relationship guy, but he hasn't had a chance yet to make those strong bonds here which may increase the movement odds.

Depends on a number of variables.

1. What are we doing with Dlo

2. What are we doing with Nowell. It is important to note I am not speaking about his contract, but rather his need for minutes. He can be a dynamic high scoring starter or he could be a regular bench guy, or he could be an end of bench microwave scorer who has no place in the main rotation. Hard to know what we do on draft night without knowing or plans for Nowell.

3. What are we doing with Naz.

I would guess we go conservative, but only because aggressive requires bargaining power we don’t have yet. Outside of KAT and Ant we don’t have a lot of trading power at the moment, and our pick isn’t the valuable. Sadly we could have had Christian wood for it, but apparently we missed that chance.

to match salary, Wolves would have had to trade a way more productive player(s) than the players Dallas gave up. Might still be worth it but its not as simple as giving up only a slightly higher pick this draft.

Krapinsky · Post #4 » by **Krapinsky** » Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:03 pm

winforlose wrote:
Klomp wrote:What are we feeling just two days before the draft? Are we going to be aggressive or conservative this offseason?

The more I think about it, the more I think we might be aggressive. Not recklessly though, but finding the right pieces to supplement the core group. Connelly has a conservative reputation, but I wonder if that may have been at least somewhat under direction from the ownership. Additionally, he's touted as a relationship guy, but he hasn't had a chance yet to make those strong bonds here which may increase the movement odds.

Depends on a number of variables.

1. What are we doing with Dlo

2. What are we doing with Nowell. It is important to note I am not speaking about his contract, but rather his need for minutes. He can be a dynamic high scoring starter or he could be a regular bench guy, or he could be an end of bench microwave scorer who has no place in the main rotation. Hard to know what we do on draft night without knowing or plans for Nowell.

3. What are we doing with Naz.

I would guess we go conservative, but only because aggressive requires bargaining power we don’t have yet. Outside of KAT and Ant we don’t have a lot of trading power at the moment, and our pick isn’t the valuable. Sadly we could have had Christian wood for it, but apparently we missed that chance.

That's OK, he's an expiring contract and a questionable fit with our current group. I'd rather spent the money elsewhere.

SO_MONEY · Post #5 » by **SO_MONEY** » Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:09 pm

A bit of both.

Dewey · Post #6 » by **Dewey** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:02 am

Have be aggressive… IMO we build what around KAT, ANT, and McD best we can.

shangrila · Post #7 » by **shangrila** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 5:07 am

Super aggressive, assuming the plan is to make the playoffs again.

If they're fine with maybe taking a step back next season then I could see them being more conservative. But I kind of doubt Lore/ARod are interested in that.

karch34 · Post #8 » by **karch34** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 5:16 am

Conservative. But only from standpoint that top 7 doesn’t change much if at all. There will be moves but don’t think it changes core significantly

Biff Cooper · Post #9 » by **Biff Cooper** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 12:22 pm

Klomp wrote:What are we feeling just two days before the draft? Are we going to be aggressive or conservative this offseason?

The more I think about it, the more I think we might be aggressive. Not recklessly though, but finding the right pieces to supplement the core group. Connelly has a conservative reputation, but I wonder if that may have been at least somewhat under direction from the ownership. Additionally, he's touted as a relationship guy, but he hasn't had a chance yet to make those strong bonds here which may increase the movement odds.

Ha ha
* Conservative
* Aggressive
* Not recklessly Aggressive

slick21 · Post #10 » by **slick21** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:09 pm

Gotta be somewhat aggressive. Can't just stand pat with a lot of tough Western Conference teams and others getting healthier next season.

PHX
GS
MEM
DAL
DEN (gets Murray back)
NO (gets Zion back)
LAC (gets Kawhi back)

Not to mention LAL, UTA, SA, and SAC who all will be hungry for the playoffs next year.

Post #11 » by **Klomp** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 5:16 pm

Something to think about right now with all of the trade discussions and how aggressive we want to be...

We were young last year, but it won't take much to turn into an older team. Cashing in assets (four picks this year, future picks, prospects) could drastically alter how long our window will stay open, which is important as we go into the next phase of roster development with guys about to get paid.

Edwards and McDaniels are the two youngest players on the roster and not going anywhere. While you may feel like this will prevent us from ever going full Thibs in roster implosion, I believe Towns and Wiggins were the youngest on the roster when that happened back then too. After Edwards and McDaniels, the next youngest three (Bolmaro, Reid, Nowell) are all at the center of a lot of roster questions going into draft week. After them, the only player under 25 to start next season is Vanderbilt.

Post #12 » by **Klomp** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 5:33 pm

slick21 wrote:Gotta be somewhat aggressive. Can't just stand pat with a lot of tough Western Conference teams and others getting healthier next season.

I think it'd be foolish to only look at next season. Progress isn't always linear.

I understand we've never been a free agent destination. However, I think there's a chance we could lure a bigger fish than we might expect next summer. I think the NBA world is beginning to notice Anthony Edwards is a superstar in waiting, and he's going to be someone who I think people will want to play with.

This is about to be a great time to be a Wolves fan, and I'm a little scared to mess it up. Any aggressiveness needs to be with an eye on next year as well.

Post #13 » by **Klomp** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 5:49 pm

Klomp wrote:Something to think about right now with all of the trade discussions and how aggressive we want to be...

We were young last year, but it won't take much to turn into an older team. Cashing in assets (four picks this year, future picks, prospects) could drastically alter how long our window will stay open, which is important as we go into the next phase of roster development with guys about to get paid.

Edwards and McDaniels are the two youngest players on the roster and not going anywhere. While you may feel like this will prevent us from ever going full Thibs in roster implosion, I believe Towns and Wiggins were the youngest on the roster when that happened back then too. After Edwards and McDaniels, the next youngest three (Bolmaro, Reid, Nowell) are all at the center of a lot of roster questions going into draft week. After them, the only player under 25 to start next season is Vanderbilt.

If we are trading Nowell or Reid, I think it's important to reset the development clock by bringing in guys earlier on rookie deals if possible. I don't want to get to a point where we are capped out and out of young guys on good deals.

minimus · Post #14 » by **minimus** » Fri Jul 8, 2022 12:32 pm

The results dont lie

Post #15 » by **Klomp** » Fri Jul 8, 2022 6:04 pm

minimus wrote:The results dont lie

Yeah I almost brought this thread back up the other day. I'm not sure we could have made a more aggressive move.

KGdaBom · Post #16 » by **KGdaBom** » Tue Jul 12, 2022 3:41 pm

Klomp wrote:
minimus wrote:The results dont lie

Yeah I almost brought this thread back up the other day. I'm not sure we could have made a more aggressive move.

I was flummoxed, in shock, blindsided by how aggressive we were.

winforlose · Post #17 » by **winforlose** » Tue Jul 12, 2022 4:22 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
Klomp wrote:
minimus wrote:The results dont lie

Yeah I almost brought this thread back up the other day. I'm not sure we could have made a more aggressive move.

I was flummoxed, in shock, blindsided by how aggressive we were.

I think under Glen this never happens. This is the statement that the new owners and THEIR new POBO wanted to make. I also think it is the right time to make it. Ant and MCD are still on their rookie deals and KAT is still on his rookie max. I am more surprised they were able to go this big. Rudy is sooo talented that for him to be available, want to play here, not cost us a star, and be under contract for four years is like winning the lottery while drinking from the holy grail.

Movics · Post #18 » by **Movics** » Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:13 pm

winforlose wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
Klomp wrote:Yeah I almost brought this thread back up the other day. I'm not sure we could have made a more aggressive move.

I was flummoxed, in shock, blindsided by how aggressive we were.

I think under Glen this never happens. This is the statement that the new owners and THEIR new POBO wanted to make. I also think it is the right time to make it. Ant and MCD are still on their rookie deals and KAT is still on his rookie max. I am more surprised they were able to go this big. Rudy is sooo talented that for him to be available, want to play here, not cost us a star, and be under contract for four years is like winning the lottery while drinking from the holy grail.

A few days ago I was thinking how it was a great message to KAT and Ant as the new owners are not afraid to spend money if it means a big improvement. I was against the new ownership because I thought A-Rod would definitely try to move the team to Seattle, but they have won me over. We’re in good hands.

winforlose · Post #19 » by **winforlose** » Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:39 pm

Movics wrote:
winforlose wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:I was flummoxed, in shock, blindsided by how aggressive we were.

I think under Glen this never happens. This is the statement that the new owners and THEIR new POBO wanted to make. I also think it is the right time to make it. Ant and MCD are still on their rookie deals and KAT is still on his rookie max. I am more surprised they were able to go this big. Rudy is sooo talented that for him to be available, want to play here, not cost us a star, and be under contract for four years is like winning the lottery while drinking from the holy grail.

A few days ago I was thinking how it was a great message to KAT and Ant as the new owners are not afraid to spend money if it means a big improvement. I was against the new ownership because I thought A-Rod would definitely try to move the team to Seattle, but they have won me over. We’re in good hands.

The league is much more focused on expansion. Vegas and Seattle will both get teams in a few years and I don’t see the league allowing any moves for at least five after that.

Post #20 » by **Klomp** » Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:19 pm

Movics wrote:A few days ago I was thinking how it was a great message to KAT and Ant as the new owners are not afraid to spend money if it means a big improvement.

I think it's pretty important for the development of Ant specifically to show him what a competitive and competent front office looks like. Playoff appearances should never be scoffed at.