The official Josh Minott thread
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:22 pm
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Klomp wrote:
TheZachAttack wrote:Posters above me have mentioned that in many ways his highlights make him look like a big. In many ways, that could be true but I think he can play a similar type of defensive role as McDaniels where he can guard teams primary ball handlers at the top of the key and also switch down to bigger players and provide verticality and weakside shot blocking help. His swing skill will be if he can develop a corner 3.
I think if he doesn’t his size would allow him to play an offensive role similar to Vando or Brandon Clarke if his defensive is good enough—think you want him as a 3 versus a 4 so if he can’t shoot you need to have certain personal that can accommodate that.
In addition, here’s his shot in workouts. I think it looks solid here but obviously a game is a different story. Vanderbilt or Clarke don’t look like this shooting.
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Nick K wrote:TheZachAttack wrote:Posters above me have mentioned that in many ways his highlights make him look like a big. In many ways, that could be true but I think he can play a similar type of defensive role as McDaniels where he can guard teams primary ball handlers at the top of the key and also switch down to bigger players and provide verticality and weakside shot blocking help. His swing skill will be if he can develop a corner 3.
I think if he doesn’t his size would allow him to play an offensive role similar to Vando or Brandon Clarke if his defensive is good enough—think you want him as a 3 versus a 4 so if he can’t shoot you need to have certain personal that can accommodate that.
In addition, here’s his shot in workouts. I think it looks solid here but obviously a game is a different story. Vanderbilt or Clarke don’t look like this shooting.
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I love these unedited shooting drills. I was surprised his form was much better than I expected. He's slow getting it off but there is hope for big improvement. I love taking a big swing at this guy where we did.
TheZachAttack wrote:Nick K wrote:TheZachAttack wrote:Posters above me have mentioned that in many ways his highlights make him look like a big. In many ways, that could be true but I think he can play a similar type of defensive role as McDaniels where he can guard teams primary ball handlers at the top of the key and also switch down to bigger players and provide verticality and weakside shot blocking help. His swing skill will be if he can develop a corner 3.
I think if he doesn’t his size would allow him to play an offensive role similar to Vando or Brandon Clarke if his defensive is good enough—think you want him as a 3 versus a 4 so if he can’t shoot you need to have certain personal that can accommodate that.
In addition, here’s his shot in workouts. I think it looks solid here but obviously a game is a different story. Vanderbilt or Clarke don’t look like this shooting.
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I love these unedited shooting drills. I was surprised his form was much better than I expected. He's slow getting it off but there is hope for big improvement. I love taking a big swing at this guy where we did.
Yup! If he can hit open catch and shoot shots that’s huge. There is a video in the reply of his form coming out of HS and it’s AMAZINGLY better. Makes me think he’s a guy who works on him a game and can improve it. Also a good explanation for the 14%. I’m optimistic that he’s better in the future and hopefully he has the body control and feel for his shot where if he improves his form he will see it start to go in.
Neeva wrote:I still say he will be McDaniels lite for us , which will be a good rotation piece in the future.
10. Josh Minott | 6-8 freshman | SF/PF | Memphis
Jalen Duren and, to a lesser extent, Emoni Bates got a lot of the attention on Memphis this year, while Minott saw his role fluctuate wildly, and he was hardly playing by the end of the year. Minott is also a bad shooter (2 of 14 on 3s in 2021-22) and will be 19 1/2 on draft day, making him a bit old for a freshman.
And yet … the analytics on Minott are really impressive, with a sky-high steal rate of a big forward (3.6 per 100 possessions in AAC play), a positive assist-turnover rate and a 14.4 percent rebound rate despite often paying next to a lottery center. History says it would be folly to ignore a player who passes this deftly and gets his hand on this many balls at the defensive end. Even the shooting has some promise — he hit 75.4 percent from the line. It’s not like he was an empty offensive force either, scoring a very respectable 25.3 points per 100 possessions. He didn’t play much, but when he did, he was quite effective.
Defensively, Minott can be tight-hipped and slow with his first slide, and a bit over-reliant on using his hands to compensate for it. He also picks up a lot of fouls that way, part of his insane foul rate (6.2 per 100 possessions).
That said, Minott probably plays closer to the dribbler of any other player I saw in this size class, which is notable — players tell on themselves by how much cushion they give the dribbler. Minott has tremendous hands and long arms and legs; he uses the former to flick the ball from unsuspecting dribblers, and the latter to make up ground if he’s initially beat. Minott goes for the ball a bit too often, a high-risk strategy that can leave an open downhill run if it fails, and because he’s thin and has a high center of gravity, he can pick up fouls when opponents get into his body or spin off him.
shrink wrote:I was shocked that John Hollinger had Minott ranked 10th on his board for The Athletic!10. Josh Minott | 6-8 freshman | SF/PF | Memphis
Jalen Duren and, to a lesser extent, Emoni Bates got a lot of the attention on Memphis this year, while Minott saw his role fluctuate wildly, and he was hardly playing by the end of the year. Minott is also a bad shooter (2 of 14 on 3s in 2021-22) and will be 19 1/2 on draft day, making him a bit old for a freshman.
And yet … the analytics on Minott are really impressive, with a sky-high steal rate of a big forward (3.6 per 100 possessions in AAC play), a positive assist-turnover rate and a 14.4 percent rebound rate despite often paying next to a lottery center. History says it would be folly to ignore a player who passes this deftly and gets his hand on this many balls at the defensive end. Even the shooting has some promise — he hit 75.4 percent from the line. It’s not like he was an empty offensive force either, scoring a very respectable 25.3 points per 100 possessions. He didn’t play much, but when he did, he was quite effective.
Defensively, Minott can be tight-hipped and slow with his first slide, and a bit over-reliant on using his hands to compensate for it. He also picks up a lot of fouls that way, part of his insane foul rate (6.2 per 100 possessions).
That said, Minott probably plays closer to the dribbler of any other player I saw in this size class, which is notable — players tell on themselves by how much cushion they give the dribbler. Minott has tremendous hands and long arms and legs; he uses the former to flick the ball from unsuspecting dribblers, and the latter to make up ground if he’s initially beat. Minott goes for the ball a bit too often, a high-risk strategy that can leave an open downhill run if it fails, and because he’s thin and has a high center of gravity, he can pick up fouls when opponents get into his body or spin off him.
Klomp wrote:I heard an interview from the season where Memphis folks thought Minott might not be done growing. Maybe it’s a bad angle, but Minott looks closer in height to Kessler (7’0.25” barefoot) than Moore (6’4.25” barefoot). Thoughts?