Re: Re: Trade Talk (Part Eleven): 2022 Offseason Edition
Posted: Wed Mar 8, 2023 10:23 pm
I wonder if there'd be any way to poach Cam Thomas from Brooklyn this offseason...
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Klomp wrote:I wonder if there'd be any way to poach Cam Thomas from Brooklyn this offseason...
Klomp wrote:I wonder if there'd be any way to poach Cam Thomas from Brooklyn this offseason...
GopherIt! wrote:now that Quin Snyder is in Hotlanta and that team is a hot mess, swap Quin’s boy Rudy for D Murray & Bogdan. Rudy might actually pair nicely w Trae.
Murray is versatile and can play off either Mike or Ant. Plus Mike is 35. Bogdan is an excellent outside sniper which this team needs. Put Kat back at the five. Play w 4 switchable guys who can D up and either Kat or Naz @ C. Or possibly sub Naz for a cheap rim protector. They have way too much of the cap invested in big men ($90M+ next szn). Put some of that coin into the guards or wings.
Conley /Murray /Naw /JMac
Ant /Murray /Moore
Jaden/ Bogdan /Minott
SloMo / TP / Knight
Kat / Naz /Luka
minimus wrote:What happened to James Bouknight? Should we try to get him as 6th man, scorer?
Mamba4Goat wrote:GopherIt! wrote:now that Quin Snyder is in Hotlanta and that team is a hot mess, swap Quin’s boy Rudy for D Murray & Bogdan. Rudy might actually pair nicely w Trae.
Murray is versatile and can play off either Mike or Ant. Plus Mike is 35. Bogdan is an excellent outside sniper which this team needs. Put Kat back at the five. Play w 4 switchable guys who can D up and either Kat or Naz @ C. Or possibly sub Naz for a cheap rim protector. They have way too much of the cap invested in big men ($90M+ next szn). Put some of that coin into the guards or wings.
Conley /Murray /Naw /JMac
Ant /Murray /Moore
Jaden/ Bogdan /Minott
SloMo / TP / Knight
Kat / Naz /Luka
Unless the CBA change that let’s you give up to a 50% extension raise to a player is passed trading for Murray is just to risky as he’ll be an expiring. If the Wolves can offer him a competitive extension and he’s down to stay then the trade makes a lot more sense for Minnesota though.
For Atlanta, Trae and Capela have a ton of chemistry and Okongwu has been waiting in the wings for a minute too. A KAT trade makes sense for them because he adds spacing and Okongwu could reasonably play next to him Ala Vando. Gobert just doesn’t make sense there though as he’s just a slight upgrade over what they have and doesn’t fit with OO or Capela.
Note30 wrote:Mamba4Goat wrote:GopherIt! wrote:now that Quin Snyder is in Hotlanta and that team is a hot mess, swap Quin’s boy Rudy for D Murray & Bogdan. Rudy might actually pair nicely w Trae.
Murray is versatile and can play off either Mike or Ant. Plus Mike is 35. Bogdan is an excellent outside sniper which this team needs. Put Kat back at the five. Play w 4 switchable guys who can D up and either Kat or Naz @ C. Or possibly sub Naz for a cheap rim protector. They have way too much of the cap invested in big men ($90M+ next szn). Put some of that coin into the guards or wings.
Conley /Murray /Naw /JMac
Ant /Murray /Moore
Jaden/ Bogdan /Minott
SloMo / TP / Knight
Kat / Naz /Luka
Unless the CBA change that let’s you give up to a 50% extension raise to a player is passed trading for Murray is just to risky as he’ll be an expiring. If the Wolves can offer him a competitive extension and he’s down to stay then the trade makes a lot more sense for Minnesota though.
For Atlanta, Trae and Capela have a ton of chemistry and Okongwu has been waiting in the wings for a minute too. A KAT trade makes sense for them because he adds spacing and Okongwu could reasonably play next to him Ala Vando. Gobert just doesn’t make sense there though as he’s just a slight upgrade over what they have and doesn’t fit with OO or Capela.
Then trade him for Capela and Murray.
Capela plays backup here.
5 out with KAT and KA.
Mamba4Goat wrote:Note30 wrote:Mamba4Goat wrote:
Unless the CBA change that let’s you give up to a 50% extension raise to a player is passed trading for Murray is just to risky as he’ll be an expiring. If the Wolves can offer him a competitive extension and he’s down to stay then the trade makes a lot more sense for Minnesota though.
For Atlanta, Trae and Capela have a ton of chemistry and Okongwu has been waiting in the wings for a minute too. A KAT trade makes sense for them because he adds spacing and Okongwu could reasonably play next to him Ala Vando. Gobert just doesn’t make sense there though as he’s just a slight upgrade over what they have and doesn’t fit with OO or Capela.
Then trade him for Capela and Murray.
Capela plays backup here.
5 out with KAT and KA.
Why does Atlanta do that though? Is the difference between Capela and Gobert really Murray?
Mamba4Goat wrote:Note30 wrote:Mamba4Goat wrote:
Unless the CBA change that let’s you give up to a 50% extension raise to a player is passed trading for Murray is just to risky as he’ll be an expiring. If the Wolves can offer him a competitive extension and he’s down to stay then the trade makes a lot more sense for Minnesota though.
For Atlanta, Trae and Capela have a ton of chemistry and Okongwu has been waiting in the wings for a minute too. A KAT trade makes sense for them because he adds spacing and Okongwu could reasonably play next to him Ala Vando. Gobert just doesn’t make sense there though as he’s just a slight upgrade over what they have and doesn’t fit with OO or Capela.
Klomp wrote:I think if you're talking about trading Towns vs. trading Gobert, Towns is the type of player who could fit in almost anywhere and so a bidding war could commence. However, Gobert is the type of person who with the right system could provide immense value that a team would be willing to pay up for.
Klomp wrote:I think if you're talking about trading Towns vs. trading Gobert, Towns is the type of player who could fit in almost anywhere and so a bidding war could commence. However, Gobert is the type of person who with the right system could provide immense value that a team would be willing to pay up for.
lewdog wrote:Klomp wrote:I think if you're talking about trading Towns vs. trading Gobert, Towns is the type of player who could fit in almost anywhere and so a bidding war could commence. However, Gobert is the type of person who with the right system could provide immense value that a team would be willing to pay up for.
What team(s) are you thinking? And keep in mind... that 40 million dollar contract.
lewdog wrote:Klomp wrote:I think if you're talking about trading Towns vs. trading Gobert, Towns is the type of player who could fit in almost anywhere and so a bidding war could commence. However, Gobert is the type of person who with the right system could provide immense value that a team would be willing to pay up for.
What team(s) are you thinking? And keep in mind... that 40 million dollar contract.
Klomp wrote:lewdog wrote:Klomp wrote:I think if you're talking about trading Towns vs. trading Gobert, Towns is the type of player who could fit in almost anywhere and so a bidding war could commence. However, Gobert is the type of person who with the right system could provide immense value that a team would be willing to pay up for.
What team(s) are you thinking? And keep in mind... that 40 million dollar contract.
I'm assuming you're asking about Gobert? I think Atlanta is one pretty obvious answer, for the reasons outlined already.
GopherIt! wrote: Trae/Capela is not working this year. The Trae/Murray combo seems to not be working either. Okongwu is limited/untested and they see him as more of a pf according to Hawks fans. I don’t believe either of those two are the answer. That was also part of my reasoning to go to Rudy. Trae is a challenging piece to build around. In a sense, he’s the guard version of Kat. Rudy wouldn’t solve all of their problems but he would be a huge help.
Murray is a flight risk but that may help make him attainable. Conley is 35. NAW looks like a very good backup. If Murray wants to start and play for a playoff team he could do worse than sign here.
minimus wrote:lewdog wrote:Klomp wrote:I think if you're talking about trading Towns vs. trading Gobert, Towns is the type of player who could fit in almost anywhere and so a bidding war could commence. However, Gobert is the type of person who with the right system could provide immense value that a team would be willing to pay up for.
What team(s) are you thinking? And keep in mind... that 40 million dollar contract.
CHI?
POR?
Klomp wrote:lewdog wrote:Klomp wrote:I think if you're talking about trading Towns vs. trading Gobert, Towns is the type of player who could fit in almost anywhere and so a bidding war could commence. However, Gobert is the type of person who with the right system could provide immense value that a team would be willing to pay up for.
What team(s) are you thinking? And keep in mind... that 40 million dollar contract.
I'm assuming you're asking about Gobert? I think Atlanta is one pretty obvious answer, for the reasons outlined already.
King Ken wrote:Trae/Capela work every year due to the PnR.
Trae/Murray is working, it's not perfect but it's working. Just not enough to where I can say, Atlanta shouldn't consider thinking about trades for Murray but well enough to say, Atlanta should resign Murray. He makes us better. That's a sure thing.
OO is not limited. He's just your typical high-end young role-player. We know what he can and can't do and what's his best fit. He's definitely a long-term 4 but he's just fine as a backup 5 which in our switch-heavy defense, means you have to guard 1-5 and he excels at it as well as defending 1v1 in the post against 4s or 5s.
I haven't seen one Hawk fan suggest Rudy this year. Not one. KAT, yes, plenty. Rudy, none and I am probably his biggest fan at least in the Hawks universe.
KAT is a challenging piece to build around. Ant is a challenging piece to build around. Luka is a challenging piece to build around. What the **** does that mean?Spoiler:minimus wrote:lewdog wrote:What team(s) are you thinking? And keep in mind... that 40 million dollar contract.
CHI?POR?Spoiler: