Re: Trade Talk (Part Eleven): 2022 Offseason Edition

[Krapinsky]

I wonder if there is an off-season trade possibility between Kat and the stuff Brooklyn got for KD/Irving. I don't think we could get Bridges, but maybe something like:

Finney-Smith, Johnson, Dinwiddie, replenishment of picks (2023 Nets, 2023 Phx, 2027 Phx, 2028 PHX) for Towns.

Conley/Finney-Smith
Ant/NAW
J-Mac/Johnson
Finney-Smith/Slo-Mo
Gobert/Naz

[Klomp]

I wonder if there is an off-season trade possibility between Kat and the stuff Brooklyn got for KD/Irving. I don't think we could get Bridges, but maybe something like:

Finney-Smith, Johnson, Dinwiddie, replenishment of picks (2023 Nets, 2023 Phx, 2027 Phx, 2028 PHX) for Towns.

Conley/Finney-Smith
Ant/NAW
J-Mac/Johnson
Finney-Smith/Slo-Mo
Gobert/Naz

Not sure I'm a fan of starting the 4-foot-11 McLaughlin at SF....

[Krapinsky]

I wonder if there is an off-season trade possibility between Kat and the stuff Brooklyn got for KD/Irving. I don't think we could get Bridges, but maybe something like:

Finney-Smith, Johnson, Dinwiddie, replenishment of picks (2023 Nets, 2023 Phx, 2027 Phx, 2028 PHX) for Towns.

Conley/Dinwiddie/J-Mac
Ant/NAW
Jaden "The Cooler" McDaniels /Johnson
Finney-Smith/Slo-Mo
Gobert/Naz

Not sure I'm a fan of starting the 4-foot-11 McLaughlin at SF....

Lol Klomp- fixed it for you

[GopherIt!]

I wonder if there is an off-season trade possibility between Kat and the stuff Brooklyn got for KD/Irving. I don't think we could get Bridges, but maybe something like:

Finney-Smith, Johnson, Dinwiddie, replenishment of picks (2023 Nets, 2023 Phx, 2027 Phx, 2028 PHX) for Towns.

Conley/Finney-Smith
Ant/NAW
J-Mac/Johnson
Finney-Smith/Slo-Mo
Gobert/Naz

Once he’s back and playing full strength, I would think Kat > MB in trade value but some may disagree. I’d push strongly for MB regardless. Run out MC/Ant/MB/Jaden/SloMo when they go small.

[Kineto]

Once he’s back and playing full strength, I would think Kat > MB in trade value but some may disagree. I’d push strongly for MB regardless. Run out MC/Ant/MB/Jaden/SloMo when they go small.

Salary is a consideration, MB is at the beginning of a very friendly contract.

[minimus]

Once he’s back and playing full strength, I would think Kat > MB in trade value but some may disagree. I’d push strongly for MB regardless. Run out MC/Ant/MB/Jaden/SloMo when they go small.

Salary is a consideration, MB is at the beginning of a very friendly contract.

I wonder if this current offensive scheme around Gobert screens and rim gravity, plus Conley passing and Edwards slashing really makes comfortable for high level shooters.

[Guidus88]

Once he’s back and playing full strength, I would think Kat > MB in trade value but some may disagree. I’d push strongly for MB regardless. Run out MC/Ant/MB/Jaden/SloMo when they go small.

Salary is a consideration, MB is at the beginning of a very friendly contract.

I wonder if this current offensive scheme around Gobert screens and rim gravity, plus Conley passing and Edwards slashing really makes comfortable for high level shooters.

definitely IMO. In fact, I look forward for KAT coming back!

[life_saver]

A younger version of Conley would have been a perfect fit for current roster...we need to find a long term replacement for Conley. Who would be realistic trade targets ?

[minimus]

A younger version of Conley would have been a perfect fit for current roster...we need to find a long term replacement for Conley. Who would be realistic trade targets ?

IMO Conley is 10+ years veteran, this is the biggest reason why he fits here, you can't replace this experience. A few other skills that define Conley game now are:

- he is a quick decision maker. This year DLo also has made big improvement in this area, so I would assume it is a very important skills for PG in Finch system. Either shoot, drive or pass Mike is decisive and quick

- he is gives all effort in defense: rebounds, charges, steals, 50/50 balls, rotations

- he is aggressive, but very unselfish. He is fierce competitor, but he stays under control. IDK but these little things have been MIN problem for years. Towns is emotionally unstable, Edwards and MCD are young

As for passing technique, shooting, dribbling, I guess these are all things that PG can improve over the time.

Based on these criteria I really struggle to find any candidates not named Tyus or Tre Jones...

[minimus]

I aftrr watching last game I should say that number of quality open looks that this Finch offense creates is insane (for MIN standards). I wish we had a knock down 3pt who can gives us burst by hitting 2-4 open threes of the bench.

[Klomp]

A younger version of Conley would have been a perfect fit for current roster...we need to find a long term replacement for Conley. Who would be realistic trade targets ?

IMO Conley is 10+ years veteran, this is the biggest reason why he fits here, you can't replace this experience. A few other skills that define Conley game now are:

- he is a quick decision maker. This year DLo also has made big improvement in this area, so I would assume it is a very important skills for PG in Finch system. Either shoot, drive or pass Mike is decisive and quick

- he is gives all effort in defense: rebounds, charges, steals, 50/50 balls, rotations

- he is aggressive, but very unselfish. He is fierce competitor, but he stays under control. IDK but these little things have been MIN problem for years. Towns is emotionally unstable, Edwards and MCD are young

As for passing technique, shooting, dribbling, I guess these are all things that PG can improve over the time.

Based on these criteria I really struggle to find any candidates not named Tyus or Tre Jones...

*BRILLIANT IDEA ALERT*

There is a certain star PG in the West that could use a heavy dose of professionalism around him. It's with a franchise and a city where Conley is already beloved. Meanwhile, that same roster has a player in his prime years who fits the characteristics Minnesota will be looking for from its point guards going forward. He is a year away from UFA, and his current team may want to try to maximize any value they can get for him before he walks for nothing. That player is also beloved in the state of Minnesota, so there should be a decent chance of retaining his services despite the UFA.

Mike Conley for Tyus Jones

[GopherIt!]

1. Bring our Apple Valley boy home.
2. Find a 3pt sniper wingman

During all of the Hawks/Beasley trade talk last year I was hoping we could nab Huerter. What a pick up by the Kings.

Orlando has 3 very interesting young PGs: our other MN boy Suggs, M. Fultz & Cole Anthony. None are future superstars but all three look like they will be solid long term contributors.

[minimus]

A younger version of Conley would have been a perfect fit for current roster...we need to find a long term replacement for Conley. Who would be realistic trade targets ?

IMO Conley is 10+ years veteran, this is the biggest reason why he fits here, you can't replace this experience. A few other skills that define Conley game now are:

- he is a quick decision maker. This year DLo also has made big improvement in this area, so I would assume it is a very important skills for PG in Finch system. Either shoot, drive or pass Mike is decisive and quick

- he is gives all effort in defense: rebounds, charges, steals, 50/50 balls, rotations

- he is aggressive, but very unselfish. He is fierce competitor, but he stays under control. IDK but these little things have been MIN problem for years. Towns is emotionally unstable, Edwards and MCD are young

As for passing technique, shooting, dribbling, I guess these are all things that PG can improve over the time.

Based on these criteria I really struggle to find any candidates not named Tyus or Tre Jones...

*BRILLIANT IDEA ALERT*

There is a certain star PG in the West that could use a heavy dose of professionalism around him. It's with a franchise and a city where Conley is already beloved. Meanwhile, that same roster has a player in his prime years who fits the characteristics Minnesota will be looking for from its point guards going forward. He is a year away from UFA, and his current team may want to try to maximize any value they can get for him before he walks for nothing. That player is also beloved in the state of Minnesota, so there should be a decent chance of retaining his services despite the UFA.

Mike Conley for Tyus Jones

Never thought about it...

[shrink]

Mike Conley is playing so well, he is delaying my desire to find that longterm replacement. DLo certainly has talent, but all of his foibles that drove me nuts are actual strengths for Conley! He, SloMo, and Finch make this team look so .. organized! And I want him here long enough to not just teach Ant professional habits on and off the court, but to also teach him how to use Gobert to his advantage.

That said, I’d love to have Tyus Jones back. Lots of NBA players don’t want to come here - their only exposure to Minnesota is playing here on a cold night in January. Team control is vital, and Tyus skillset and “one of us” mentality would be a perfect fit.

Lastly, I worry about Ja. These multiple incidents and 8-game suspension are very concerning for the young man. But MEM is one of the smallest markets in the NBA. They can’t just trade him, and expect someone just as talented to come in and replace him. They need to find someone to get through to him, to help him be a professional and maximize his potential. It makes me wonder if Conley was team leader when he was in Memphis, and whether he already has Ja’s ear?

[Klomp]

It makes me wonder if Conley was team leader when he was in Memphis, and whether he already has Ja’s ear?

There was no real crossover between Conley and Morant stints.

Morant drafted June 20, 2019
Conley traded July 6, 2019

[Klomp]

Mike Conley is playing so well, he is delaying my desire to find that longterm replacement. DLo certainly has talent, but all of his foibles that drove me nuts are actual strengths for Conley! He, SloMo, and Finch make this team look so .. organized! And I want him here long enough to not just teach Ant professional habits on and off the court, but to also teach him how to use Gobert to his advantage.

That said, I’d love to have Tyus Jones back. Lots of NBA players don’t want to come here - their only exposure to Minnesota is playing here on a cold night in January. Team control is vital, and Tyus skillset and “one of us” mentality would be a perfect fit.

Lastly, I worry about Ja. These multiple incidents and 8-game suspension are very concerning for the young man. But MEM is one of the smallest markets in the NBA. They can’t just trade him, and expect someone just as talented to come in and replace him. They need to find someone to get through to him, to help him be a professional and maximize his potential. It makes me wonder if Conley was team leader when he was in Memphis, and whether he already has Ja’s ear?

Yeah I'm not necessarily in a rush to move on from Conley. But this would be a near-perfect transaction that could help both markets, and one of the few I would be willing to go through this transition without much debate.

[Ethomasp31]

Why are some of you trying to get rid of Conley...we just got him...I'd rather talk about signing him to an extension.

[frankenwolf]

Why are some of you trying to get rid of Conley...we just got him...I'd rather talk about signing him to an extension.

Because he's 35. He is an almost perfect fit with this roster and if he were 5 years younger, I think it be perfect. At 35, most PG's are starting to slide that slippery slope to retirement if they haven't already hung them up, CP3 being one of the few exceptions. Can Mike play until he's 40? Maybe, but the chances are not as effectively. Tyus would be a great get in my opinion.

[twolves31]

Why are some of you trying to get rid of Conley...we just got him...I'd rather talk about signing him to an extension.

I wonder what an extension would look like for him. Would he take mle type money for 2-3 years after next season, would he be worth 12ish million at 39 years old? If he were to sign a decent size contract while mentoring in a future pg in a year or two down the road, that would work out pretty well. Is there a scenario where we have Conley and Tyus as our two guards after Tyus becomes a free agent in the Summer of 24 maybe by sign and trading for him?

[Note30]

Why are some of you trying to get rid of Conley...we just got him...I'd rather talk about signing him to an extension.

Yeah. For all the love of Conley I rather try to sign him to a smaller contract and have him play backup.

Problem is there aren't any starter level players in FA.

I think we may need to try to buy a 1st round pick in the late 20s and draft a PG. Have Conley train him for a year and have them slowly switch roles

Colby Jones seems like a good try to buy in the late 20's. 6'6 PG with facilitation skills.