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Where Does Gobert Rank as Most Talented Wolves of All Time?
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 6:23 pm
by shrink
Where does Gobert rank in the most talented Wolves of all time?
Looking mostly at All Stars, here’s some players to consider:
Garnett, Marbury, Gugliotta, Sczerbiak, Cassell, Love, Towns, Butler, Edwards
Re: Where Does Gobert Rank as Most Talented Wolves of All Time?
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 6:37 pm
by KGdaBom
How does one define talent? I made my choice based on how much I think he will impact wins and losses. How good he is.
Re: Where Does Gobert Rank as Most Talented Wolves of All Time?
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 6:53 pm
by Klomp
I think in 5 years from now, we'll be talking about how three players from the current squad are on the Timberwolves Mt. Rushmore.
Re: Where Does Gobert Rank as Most Talented Wolves of All Time?
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:50 pm
by Neeva
Klomp wrote:I think in 5 years from now, we'll be talking about how three players from the current squad are on the Timberwolves Mt. Rushmore.
Four.
Re: Where Does Gobert Rank as Most Talented Wolves of All Time?
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:55 pm
by Biff Cooper
A lot of variation depending on how you define "talented". Some of these guys have obvious physical talent that doesn't or didn't necessarily translate to good basketball. Others have figured out how to maximize the talent that they already had. I gave credit to both and tried to group into tiers.
Tier 1 - KG
Tier 2 : KAT, Love, Butler, Gobert, Billups, Rose
Tier 3 : Ant, Jefferson, Roy
Tier 4 : Wiggins, Lavine, Laettner
Tier 5 : Marbury, Gugliatta, Cassell, DLo, AK47, Spreewell, Porter, Rider, Terrell Brandon, Antoine Walker, Pek, Rubio, KMart
Re: Where Does Gobert Rank as Most Talented Wolves of All Time?
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:12 pm
by Klomp
Neeva wrote:Klomp wrote:I think in 5 years from now, we'll be talking about how three players from the current squad are on the Timberwolves Mt. Rushmore.
Four.
You think Garnett will be bumped down to 5th best all-time?!

Re: Where Does Gobert Rank as Most Talented Wolves of All Time?
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:23 pm
by KGdaBom
Klomp wrote:Neeva wrote:Klomp wrote:I think in 5 years from now, we'll be talking about how three players from the current squad are on the Timberwolves Mt. Rushmore.
Four.
You think Garnett will be bumped down to 5th best all-time?!

Right I don't see how that's possible.
Re: Where Does Gobert Rank as Most Talented Wolves of All Time?
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:29 pm
by BlacJacMac
Biff Cooper wrote:A lot of variation depending on how you define "talented". Some of these guys have obvious physical talent that doesn't or didn't necessarily translate to good basketball. Others have figured out how to maximize the talent that they already had. I gave credit to both and tried to group into tiers.
Tier 1 - KG
Tier 2 : KAT, Love, Butler, Gobert, Billups, Rose
Tier 3 : Ant, Jefferson, Roy
Tier 4 : Wiggins, Lavine, Laettner
Tier 5 : Marbury, Gugliatta, Cassell, DLo, AK47, Spreewell, Porter, Rider, Terrell Brandon, Antoine Walker, Pek, Rubio, KMart
Rose?
And is Roy getting a "lifetime achievement award"? Because he played 5 games for us.
Re: Where Does Gobert Rank as Most Talented Wolves of All Time?
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:30 pm
by BlacJacMac
Klomp wrote:Neeva wrote:Klomp wrote:I think in 5 years from now, we'll be talking about how three players from the current squad are on the Timberwolves Mt. Rushmore.
Four.
You think Garnett will be bumped down to 5th best all-time?!

Maybe he's never seen Mt. Rushmore?
Re: Where Does Gobert Rank as Most Talented Wolves of All Time?
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:32 pm
by KGdaBom
BlacJacMac wrote:Klomp wrote:Neeva wrote:
Four.
You think Garnett will be bumped down to 5th best all-time?!

Maybe he's never seen Mt. Rushmore?
I think Neeva sees KG as getting so excited over this team that he comes out of retirement and rejoins the Wolves.
Re: Where Does Gobert Rank as Most Talented Wolves of All Time?
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:47 pm
by Rookie-Mistake
Hasn't played a game yet.
shrink wrote:Where does Gobert rank in the most talented Wolves of all time?
Looking mostly at All Stars, here’s some players to consider:
Garnett, Marbury, Gugliotta, Sczerbiak, Cassell, Love, Towns, Butler, Edwards
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Re: Where Does Gobert Rank as Most Talented Wolves of All Time?
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:48 pm
by jscott
KG, KAT and Ant are the only Wolves on his level. I said 3rd right because Ant is only in his 2nd year and still developing.
Re: Where Does Gobert Rank as Most Talented Wolves of All Time?
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:59 pm
by KGdaBom
Rookie-Mistake wrote:Hasn't played a game yet.
shrink wrote:Where does Gobert rank in the most talented Wolves of all time?
Looking mostly at All Stars, here’s some players to consider:
Garnett, Marbury, Gugliotta, Sczerbiak, Cassell, Love, Towns, Butler, Edwards
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Does his not playing a game for us yet diminish his talent? I don't think so.
Re: Where Does Gobert Rank as Most Talented Wolves of All Time?
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:10 pm
by Note30
Can't believe the number of people thinking Gobert > Towns.
Re: Where Does Gobert Rank as Most Talented Wolves of All Time?
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:15 pm
by shrink
KGdaBom wrote:How does one define talent? I made my choice based on how much I think he will impact wins and losses. How good he is.
Klomp wrote:I think in 5 years from now, we'll be talking about how three players from the current squad are on the Timberwolves Mt. Rushmore.
Yeah, I really struggled putting the idea behind the question into words. You guys both did it better.
Re: Where Does Gobert Rank as Most Talented Wolves of All Time?
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:20 pm
by KGdaBom
shrink wrote:KGdaBom wrote:How does one define talent? I made my choice based on how much I think he will impact wins and losses. How good he is.
Klomp wrote:I think in 5 years from now, we'll be talking about how three players from the current squad are on the Timberwolves Mt. Rushmore.
Yeah, I really struggled putting the idea behind the question into words. You guys both did it better.
I appreciate the struggle, but talent was a poor choice of words. JR Rider could easily be the most talented Wolves player ever.

Re: Where Does Gobert Rank as Most Talented Wolves of All Time?
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:30 pm
by KGdaBom
Note30 wrote:Can't believe the number of people thinking Gobert > Towns.
Rudy has much greater impact on wins and losses and check Basketball reference the stat Bible. Rudy buries KAT.
Re: Where Does Gobert Rank as Most Talented Wolves of All Time?
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:43 pm
by Note30
KGdaBom wrote:Note30 wrote:Can't believe the number of people thinking Gobert > Towns.
Rudy has much greater impact on wins and losses and check Basketball reference the stat Bible. Rudy buries KAT.
Probably has to do something with the trash bags KAT played with since a Rookie vs Gobert.
Compare win shares last year. Pretty similar, the one year they had semi equal teams.
Re: Where Does Gobert Rank as Most Talented Wolves of All Time?
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:49 pm
by KGdaBom
Note30 wrote:KGdaBom wrote:Note30 wrote:Can't believe the number of people thinking Gobert > Towns.
Rudy has much greater impact on wins and losses and check Basketball reference the stat Bible. Rudy buries KAT.
Probably has to do something with the trash bags KAT played with since a Rookie vs Gobert.
Compare win shares last year. Pretty similar, the one year they had semi equal teams.
Kat's a very good player. I like him, but when looking at the big picture KAT is a top 20 player. Rudy is a top 10 player. I'm thrilled they are both on OUR team.
Re: Where Does Gobert Rank as Most Talented Wolves of All Time?
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 5:24 pm
by Biff Cooper
BlacJacMac wrote:Biff Cooper wrote:A lot of variation depending on how you define "talented". Some of these guys have obvious physical talent that doesn't or didn't necessarily translate to good basketball. Others have figured out how to maximize the talent that they already had. I gave credit to both and tried to group into tiers.
Tier 1 - KG
Tier 2 : KAT, Love, Butler, Gobert, Billups, Rose
Tier 3 : Ant, Jefferson, Roy
Tier 4 : Wiggins, Lavine, Laettner
Tier 5 : Marbury, Gugliatta, Cassell, DLo, AK47, Spreewell, Porter, Rider, Terrell Brandon, Antoine Walker, Pek, Rubio, KMart
Rose?
And is Roy getting a "lifetime achievement award"? Because he played 5 games for us.
If Michael Jordan played one game for the Wolves, would he not be one of the most talented Wolves ever?