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Taylor hires are interviewing for other organizations.

I guess Lore had the money after all.

YES!!!

thinktank wrote:Taylor hires are interviewing for other organizations.

I guess Lore had the money after all.

We already have a thread for this, also what are his sources. He is very close to the Arod/Lore pair and has hosted them multiple times.

winforlose wrote:

thinktank wrote:Taylor hires are interviewing for other organizations.

I guess Lore had the money after all.

We already have a thread for this, also what are his sources. He is very close to the Arod/Lore pair and has hosted them multiple times.

He didn’t reveal his sources and you don’t have to believe me.

(But you’d be smart to.)

I expect crow eating from all the glen apologists out there who believed a word that came out of his mouth. Good riddance

guest81 wrote:I expect crow eating from all the glen apologists out there who believed a word that came out of his mouth. Good riddance

We should be careful what we wish for. Lore and AFraud aren't exactly stacked with liquid assets compared to other ownership in the NBA.

If Bloomberg ends up as the majority Owner, that will at least alleviate any financial concerns. After enduring 60+ years of Calvin Griffith and the Pohlad for the Twins, the last thing we need is a cost-cutter signing checks from a fan's perspective.

Now what becomes of Connelly?

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guest81 wrote:I expect crow eating from all the glen apologists out there who believed a word that came out of his mouth. Good riddance

It will be interesting to hear from shrink.

Unfortunately, in my opinion, the damage was done this summer with the Towns trade. Taylor was never going to allow the Wolves to consistently be a second apron team. We do not know whether the same can be said of Lore/Rodriguez.

Slim Tubby wrote:

guest81 wrote:I expect crow eating from all the glen apologists out there who believed a word that came out of his mouth. Good riddance

We should be careful what we wish for. Lore and AFraud aren't exactly stacked with liquid assets compared to other ownership in the NBA.

If Bloomberg ends up as the majority Owner, that will at least alleviate any financial concerns. After enduring 60+ years of Calvin Griffith and the Pohlad for the Twins, the last thing we need is a cost-cutter signing checks from a fan's perspective.

Now what becomes of Connelly?

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I mean if lore and arod win it says that Glen was full of crap with his story of them not having the money.

I also think if Glen stayed then connley is gone. Opposite of lore wins

Baseline81 wrote:

guest81 wrote:I expect crow eating from all the glen apologists out there who believed a word that came out of his mouth. Good riddance

It will be interesting to hear from shrink.

Unfortunately, in my opinion, the damage was done this summer with the Towns trade. Taylor was never going to allow the Wolves to consistently be a second apron team. We do not know whether the same can be said of Lore/Rodriguez.

I'd argue nobody is going to be a consistent 2nd apron team.

If Ballmer and the Clippers won't, it's not realistic to expect anyone else to.

shangrila wrote:

Baseline81 wrote:

guest81 wrote:I expect crow eating from all the glen apologists out there who believed a word that came out of his mouth. Good riddance

It will be interesting to hear from shrink.

Unfortunately, in my opinion, the damage was done this summer with the Towns trade. Taylor was never going to allow the Wolves to consistently be a second apron team. We do not know whether the same can be said of Lore/Rodriguez.

I'd argue nobody is going to be a consistent 2nd apron team.

If Ballmer and the Clippers won't, it's not realistic to expect anyone else to.

Exactly.

shangrila wrote:I'd argue nobody is going to be a consistent 2nd apron team.

If Ballmer and the Clippers won't, it's not realistic to expect anyone else to.

And yet, we couldn't even try one year after making the Western Conference Finals for the second time in franchise history? It's not like I'm over here asking for four or fives years in a row...

Baseline81 wrote:

shangrila wrote:I'd argue nobody is going to be a consistent 2nd apron team.

If Ballmer and the Clippers won't, it's not realistic to expect anyone else to.

And yet, we couldn't even try one year after making the Western Conference Finals for the second time in franchise history? It's not like I'm over here asking for four or fives years in a row...

So I'll assume this is another complaint about the KAT trade, seeing as they're in the 2nd apron now and thus achieved your stated goal.

The KAT trade was made to retool around Ant's timeline. Disagree with it if you like, but it's honestly baffling how people still can't seem to wrap their head around it despite clear evidence and, hell, even the team admitting it.

shangrila wrote:The KAT trade was made to retool around Ant's timeline. Disagree with it if you like, but it's honestly baffling how people still can't seem to wrap their head around it despite clear evidence and, hell, even the team admitting it.

I've understood the moment the trade was made. That doesn't mean Connelly made the correct decision. Quite opposite, in fact.

Baseline81 wrote:

shangrila wrote:The KAT trade was made to retool around Ant's timeline. Disagree with it if you like, but it's honestly baffling how people still can't seem to wrap their head around it despite clear evidence and, hell, even the team admitting it.

I've understood the moment the trade was made. That doesn't mean Connelly made the correct decision. Quite opposite, in fact.

Doesn't mean he didn't make the right choice either. It was a decision made with the future in mind that you're making definitive statements about 6 months later. That's stupid.

Anyway, that will be the last comment I make about KAT.

guest81 wrote:

Slim Tubby wrote:

guest81 wrote:I expect crow eating from all the glen apologists out there who believed a word that came out of his mouth. Good riddance

We should be careful what we wish for. Lore and AFraud aren't exactly stacked with liquid assets compared to other ownership in the NBA.

If Bloomberg ends up as the majority Owner, that will at least alleviate any financial concerns. After enduring 60+ years of Calvin Griffith and the Pohlad for the Twins, the last thing we need is a cost-cutter signing checks from a fan's perspective.

Now what becomes of Connelly?

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I mean if lore and arod win it says that Glen was full of crap with his story of them not having the money.

I also think if Glen stayed then connley is gone. Opposite of lore wins

Respectfully, I really don’t think that this is accurate. Multiple things can be true.

1. Alex Rodriguez and Marc Lore have had serious issues with raising funds throughout this process, which is potentially problematic. There are risks associated with them carving up ownership stake, especially when they don’t have much liquid cash.

2. They were a disaster with meeting deadlines, heavily relying on extensions to a concerning degree.

3. It was determined that Glen Taylor yanking the deal did not meet the threshold for good faith by the letter of their contract.

I have been pretty outspoken about my huge concerns regarding their finances, and am pretty unimpressed by their ability to meet deadlines effectively, but I was never particularly convinced that Glen Taylor’s attempt to shred the agreement outright would withstand arbitration.

Domejandro wrote:

guest81 wrote:

Slim Tubby wrote:We should be careful what we wish for. Lore and AFraud aren't exactly stacked with liquid assets compared to other ownership in the NBA.

If Bloomberg ends up as the majority Owner, that will at least alleviate any financial concerns. After enduring 60+ years of Calvin Griffith and the Pohlad for the Twins, the last thing we need is a cost-cutter signing checks from a fan's perspective.

Now what becomes of Connelly?

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I mean if lore and arod win it says that Glen was full of crap with his story of them not having the money.

I also think if Glen stayed then connley is gone. Opposite of lore wins

Respectfully, I really don’t think that this is accurate. Multiple things can be true.

1. Alex Rodriguez and Marc Lore have had serious issues with raising funds throughout this process, which is potentially problematic. There are risks associated with them carving up ownership stake, especially when they don’t have much liquid cash.

2. They were a disaster with meeting deadlines, heavily relying on extensions to a concerning degree.

3. It was determined that Glen Taylor yanking the deal did not meet the threshold for good faith by the letter of their contract.

I have been pretty outspoken about my huge concerns regarding their finances, and am pretty unimpressed by their ability to meet deadlines effectively, but I was never particularly convinced that Glen Taylor’s attempt to shred the agreement outright would withstand arbitration.

This is a pretty accurate assessment.
It all boils down to if the deadlines they missed were enough to sever the agreement or if they were entitled to yet another extension in the contract that was not given in good faith by Glen.

And then whichever way that goes there will be more lawsuits.
And having to get their purchase and financing approved by the NBA board of governors.

Eric Schmit and Bloomberg are absolutely ruthless scum of the earth people with zero ethics (just like Alex Rodriguez).
Having superrich people propping up a purchase by relatively poor owners usually turns out a certain way.
It's a backwards dynamic I'm sure the NBA is not going to be particularly fond of.

Glen sucks. It's as agreed upon as the sky being blue.
But it can get much much much much much much worse.

Financial strain can have all kinds of downstream negative consequences and that reality can force the business to do all kinds of things it doesn't want to do.
I encourage anyone changing or looking for a new job to look as closely as you are able at the financial shape and performance of the company you are considering working for.

The reality of pro sports is that for the 2 leagues without hard caps, MLB and NBA, owners outside of the major markets have to pay out of pocket if they want to compete at the highest levels.

I hope the MLB gets a salary cap in the next CBA even if it takes a season or two of missed games.
What the Dodgers Yankess and Mets are doing is disgraceful having payrolls 3-4 times the small and mid markets.
Imagine the Lakers with 600 million payroll and being willing and able to offer Ant 100 million dollars a year for 13 years.
That's what baseball is like now.

younggunsmn wrote:

Domejandro wrote:

guest81 wrote:
I mean if lore and arod win it says that Glen was full of crap with his story of them not having the money.

I also think if Glen stayed then connley is gone. Opposite of lore wins

Respectfully, I really don’t think that this is accurate. Multiple things can be true.

1. Alex Rodriguez and Marc Lore have had serious issues with raising funds throughout this process, which is potentially problematic. There are risks associated with them carving up ownership stake, especially when they don’t have much liquid cash.

2. They were a disaster with meeting deadlines, heavily relying on extensions to a concerning degree.

3. It was determined that Glen Taylor yanking the deal did not meet the threshold for good faith by the letter of their contract.

I have been pretty outspoken about my huge concerns regarding their finances, and am pretty unimpressed by their ability to meet deadlines effectively, but I was never particularly convinced that Glen Taylor’s attempt to shred the agreement outright would withstand arbitration.

This is a pretty accurate assessment.
It all boils down to if the deadlines they missed were enough to sever the agreement or if they were entitled to yet another extension in the contract that was not given in good faith by Glen.

And then whichever way that goes there will be more lawsuits.
And having to get their purchase and financing approved by the NBA board of governors.

Eric Schmit and Bloomberg are absolutely ruthless scum of the earth people with zero ethics (just like Alex Rodriguez).
Having superrich people propping up a purchase by relatively poor owners usually turns out a certain way.
It's a backwards dynamic I'm sure the NBA is not going to be particularly fond of.

Glen sucks. It's as agreed upon as the sky being blue.
But it can get much much much much much much worse.

Financial strain can have all kinds of downstream negative consequences and that reality can force the business to do all kinds of things it doesn't want to do.
I encourage anyone changing or looking for a new job to look as closely as you are able at the financial shape and performance of the company you are considering working for.

The reality of pro sports is that for the 2 leagues without hard caps, MLB and NBA, owners outside of the major markets have to pay out of pocket if they want to compete at the highest levels.

I hope the MLB gets a salary cap in the next CBA even if it takes a season or two of missed games.
What the Dodgers Yankess and Mets are doing is disgraceful having payrolls 3-4 times the small and mid markets.
Imagine the Lakers with 600 million payroll and being willing and able to offer Ant 100 million dollars a year for 13 years.
That's what baseball is like now.

To say it gets worse then Glen is ridiculous. He has also been a cheap owner minus like 2 years out of 30. Under Glen the wolves were the losinginess franchise in professional sports. It literally doesn't get worse then that

guest81 wrote:To say it gets worse then Glen is ridiculous. He has also been a cheap owner minus like 2 years out of 30. Under Glen the wolves were the losinginess franchise in professional sports. It literally doesn't get worse then that

For any criticism that you can levy towards Glen Taylor, being a "cheap" owner certainly isn't one of them. He has always been willing to dip into the Luxury-Tax, there are far cheaper owners.

Domejandro wrote:

guest81 wrote:To say it gets worse then Glen is ridiculous. He has also been a cheap owner minus like 2 years out of 30. Under Glen the wolves were the losinginess franchise in professional sports. It literally doesn't get worse then that

For any criticism that you can levy towards Glen Taylor, being a "cheap" owner certainly isn't one of them. He has always been willing to dip into the Luxury-Tax, there are far cheaper owners.

I worked for Glen when I was younger. He is NOT cheap...and he loves to spend money on the things most important to him like the Wolves and Lynx.

I'm not standing up for him. He has made mistakes without a doubt as an Owner, but he has always been willing to write the checks for this team when needed.

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Do we know if Lore and AFraud are tight with Connelly and will try to retain him? If so, could the KAT trade have been orchestrated by them through Connelly as a sign that being in the Lux Tax will not be tolerated?

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