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From the celtics we got

1.) Al Jefferson
2.) Ryan Gomes
3.) S. Telfair
4.) G.Green
5.) T.Ratliff
6.) Our pick
7.) Bos pick

Break that down
1.) Young stud Big
2.) young solid rotation player
3.) Young potential player who has yet to put it together
4.) Ditto #4
5.) Large ending contract
6.) Future pick (with all the protections I am considering it late)
7.) Late pick

Now, what did the sixers get for AI?


Andre Miller
Joe Smith
2 first rd picks

For the sake of argument lets say their first rd picks=our first rd picks.

Joe SMith=Theo
Would Wally be Andre Miller?

what is the difference? AI demanded a trade?

Not sure there is much to comment. Just had me thinking a little bit.

revprodeji wrote:From the celtics we got

1.) Al Jefferson
2.) Ryan Gomes
3.) S. Telfair
4.) G.Green
5.) T.Ratliff
6.) Our pick
7.) Bos pick

Break that down
1.) Young stud Big
2.) young solid rotation player
3.) Young potential player who has yet to put it together
4.) Ditto #4
5.) Large ending contract
6.) Future pick (with all the protections I am considering it late)
7.) Late pick

Now, what did the sixers get for AI?


Andre Miller
Joe Smith
2 first rd picks

For the sake of argument lets say their first rd picks=our first rd picks.

Joe SMith=Theo
Would Wally be Andre Miller?

what is the difference? AI demanded a trade?

Not sure there is much to comment. Just had me thinking a little bit.

there are any protections on that pick? that would be something new for me...

It was our pick coming back to us. But we had so much protection on it that I doubt we ever would give them anything of importance. I considered it a "future late" in order to give it a comparable value.

revprodeji wrote:It was our pick coming back to us. But we had so much protection on it that I doubt we ever would give them anything of importance. I considered it a "future late" in order to give it a comparable value.

yeah there were restrictions on that pick when it was traded to the celtics but the way I understood it is that the restrictions got waived after we pushed the trigger on the KG deal

I was thinking about this too, and you can throw the Gasol and Kidd trades in there as well. MN did better than all the rest.

Off the top of my head, let's say you can judge a superstar trade by these criteria:

1. Primary young (usually) player in return
2. Additional pieces
3. Picks
4. Expirings
5. Add'l salary dumped with the superstar

All teams got two picks, likely to be late, so let's call that equal and throw out #3. Also, I dont believe any of the teams dumped additional salary with the superstars, so let's throw out #5 as well.

#1 MN got Jefferson, NJ got Harris, Philly got Miller, Memphis got Crittendon.

MN wins by far, with NJ a distant second.

#2 MN wins here as well with Gomes and Telfair. NJ got Diop but more for the expiring. Philly got no additional pieces other than expirings, and memphis got very little.

#4 MN got the biggest expiring, and didnt take back add'l salary. Memphis did all right here as well. NJ got stuck with Hassell, and most of the salary Philly took back was Miller (with Joe Smith the only expiring piece). Another win for MN.

Accross the board, if you agree that these are good criteria to judge a superstar trade, its pretty easy to see that MN came out better than NJ, Memphis, and Philly.

To be fair, I think KG has more value than any high profile trade of the last two years. His positive attitude, relatively healthy career, and overall game is hard to beat.

He is being compared to ball hogs, past prime players who are injury prone, and complainers.