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Who would make you think about trading the #2?

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:54 pm
by MN Die Hard
First, I'll assume that we wouldnt trade Rose under any circumstances, whether he's there at #1 or #2. But what if we have #2 and Rose is gone? Which players would at least make you think about trading the #2? I dont want to get into specific trades, but what names would McHale need to hear so that he wouldnt hang up the phone immediatly? I'll ignore LeBron, Paul, Howard, Kobe, Roy, Oden, Durant, and Wade because they arent going anywhere.

Horford
Josh Smith
Okafer
Carmelo
Bynum

Anybody else? I guess its a pretty small group. And you could argue that even these five could be part of the untouchable list as well.

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:58 pm
by C.lupus
Honestly, I would much rather have Beasley than Melo and probably Okafer, too. I just don't like Carmelo - I don't think he is a "winner". The other three names, I would probably go for. Bynum would be at my top but he is probably on the untouchable list.

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:11 pm
by kandiking
bynum, but the lakers won't trade him for beasley. plus we'd have 4 years of rookie contract savings and we'd be forced to give any of those guys a big contract. a savings of around 50 mil, short term.

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:11 pm
by shrink
The Trade Board ran a poll over who had the most trade value, and I thought it might help come up with names. Of course, since this was a poll, each voter brought in his or her own preconceptions, from his team, of what represents trade value. A rebuilding team like MEM might not value KG as much as a team close to a championship, like San Antonio, for example. Still, it provides a list of the high value names, as well as a valuation of what the pick would be worth.

Do any of these names make the list?

Results
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1- LeBron James
2- Dwight Howard
3- Chris Paul
4- Kobe Bryant
5- Yao Ming
6- Greg Oden
7- Amare Stoudemire
8- Tim Duncan
9- Al Jefferson
10- Deron Williams
11- Kevin Garnett
12- Chris Bosh
13- Dywane Wade
14- Dirk Nowitzki
15- Carmello Anthony
16- Kevin Durant
17- Brandon Roy
18- #1 pick in the 2008 draft
19- Lamarcus Aldridge
20- Andrew Bynum
21- #2 pick in the 2008 draft
22- Carlos Bozer
23- Al Horford
24- Gilbert Arenas
25- Elton Brand
26- Tony Parker
27- Andrew Bogut
28- Josh Smith
29- Rudy Gay
30- Kevin Martin

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:11 pm
by deeney0
I don't know about Josh Smith, and Bynum has some flags (Slow to come back from injury. Will he be as good on another team?) The other 3 would certainly make me think about it.

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:15 pm
by john2jer
When you consider the Wolves now and how the trade would effect this team, here's the guys off the top 30 list that I would trade the #2 pick for.

1-11, 13, 15, 17, 18, and 20. I don't think I'd trade it for anyone else on the list.

Currently, Bosh, Durant, and Aldridge don't do enough for me to move Beasley. Of those, Aldridge I probably like the most, so if they added in a little bit I could be swayed. Aldridge and Jefferson would be good together.

The rest are either two old, getting paid too much, or wouldn't work well with a rebuilding team.

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:03 pm
by Worm Guts
You like Aldridge more than Durant or Bosh? :-?

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:12 pm
by Basti
though I'm really impressed by Roy I wouldn't trade the #2 for him

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:37 pm
by the_bruce
I would not trade beasly away for a different player. The only players that tempt me would not be available for him so shrug.

Bynum probably has similar trade value, but I agree that he has shown some red flags, lacks some commitment, and needs to be resigned soon.

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:23 pm
by IcemanMN
I don't think this is the right question. Rose and Beasley are both too good to trade. The right question is, what if we have the #3, who would we trade it for?

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:59 pm
by prefuse73
IcemanMN wrote:I don't think this is the right question. Rose and Beasley are both too good to trade. The right question is, what if we have the #3, who would we trade it for?


I will agree with that statement. If we are lucky enough to get #2 in the draft, we should just be happy that it is a no brainer decision for mgmt. and roll with it. We need the swagger of a superstar here and I think Beasley would fit the bill. I will be curious to see how he measures out. I hope he is close to 6'10 in shoes..... :pray:

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:15 pm
by Krapinsky
I'd narrow the list to wing players or centers who fit better with our current lineup. Then I'd say no to anyone near or over thirty.

Yes-

Bosh, Durant, Oden, Gay, D. Williams, Amare

Would make me think-

Josh Smith, Bynum, Wade, Parker,

Decline for various reasons-

Dirk, Horford, Aldridge, everyone else that is not obviously a yes

Posted: Thu May 1, 2008 2:26 am
by Carpe Diem
Anyone who would trade for Melo needs their head examined. He doesn't listen to Karl, what makes you think he'd tune in Whit the Twit? Moreover, he has no concept of defense and he hasn't met a shot he doesn't like.

Of the players on the list, one that might be available would be Dirk. The Mavs remind me of the KG-Wolves...aging, overpriced, middling team. They are ripe to blow it up and Dirk is their most tradeable commodity. Our #1, the Miami-owed #1, Walker, Jaric. I would not do it if Beasley or Rose were availabe and would have to think long and hard if Mayo was on the board (so basically top #3); otherwise, I would.

Posted: Thu May 1, 2008 7:07 am
by 4ho5ive
Nah, Id rather not trade for the NBA's tin-man.

Posted: Thu May 1, 2008 8:26 am
by Basti
I'd do that deal but only because the wolves would get soooooooo much more attention in germany :D

Posted: Thu May 1, 2008 2:24 pm
by mandurugo
Assuming we drafted Rose I would trade Jefferson for Beasley. Rose and Beasley could become the next Payton/Kemp - that would be some fun basketball to watch.

Posted: Thu May 1, 2008 4:14 pm
by Basti
mandurugo wrote:Assuming we drafted Rose I would trade Jefferson for Beasley. Rose and Beasley could become the next Payton/Kemp - that would be some fun basketball to watch.


true but I'd rather stick to the (almost) stud in jefferson.

Posted: Thu May 1, 2008 4:34 pm
by Devilzsidewalk
Jefferson for Beasley is a no-no.

He's already one of the biggest forces on offense and he's beginning to show dedication on defense too. Even iff he maintains his current pace with no improvement, as long as he's healthy he's probably going to the hall of fame.

Posted: Thu May 1, 2008 5:32 pm
by shrink
Devilzsidewalk wrote: He's already one of the biggest forces on offense and he's beginning to show dedication on defense too. Even iff he maintains his current pace with no improvement, as long as he's healthy he's probably going to the hall of fame.


I don't disagree with anything you've said about Al, but I'd consider Al for Beasley. Which is going to be more productive? Al? Or Beasley + a near max deal free agent?

Posted: Thu May 1, 2008 5:42 pm
by Devilzsidewalk
Its too hard to find a player like Al Jefferson. A back to the basket player that can rebound like that and has that kind of perfect personality for a winning team.

I wouldn't trade Al jefferson for Beasley and Deng or whomever. I think Beasley is talented, but I have unanswered concerns about his personality. Whatever free agent the Wolves get is a guy that either abandoned his team even though they wanted him, was given up by his team because they didn't think he was that good, or they didn't think he was worth the price so they let him go. I don't see an NBA championship in that combination. I think Al can be a leader, I think Foye can, I think Rose can, I do not think Beasley can, and I do not think that free agent we get would either.