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Post#1 » by MP Eagle » Wed May 21, 2008 1:00 am

Someone please tell me why are yall so hookeon Mayo? Yes he is a hot name but is that what the timberwolves need. He is no differenty from Foye, only difference he average more turn overs (in college at that) and shoot way more. You guy have an inside beast in AL. If yall get mayo, between him and McCants, shot will be take from AL.

Mayo was hot in high school but shot the ball way too much in college to get 20 points a game. So really you are drafting a 2 guard and try to turn him into an NBA point guard. Not Smart.. Go with Lopez and package McCants, jaric, and a pick to bring in a PG. JUST DONT DRAFT MAYO!!
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Post#2 » by Tekkenlaw » Wed May 21, 2008 1:02 am

Or go with Mayo and package McCants+Walker to get a center.

The bust rate on big men in the draft is a lot higher than with players like Mayo. You take the best player available when you're lucky enough to be in the top 3.
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Post#3 » by B Calrissian » Wed May 21, 2008 1:03 am

I disagree.

*(with the stuff about Mayo not fitting in with Foye and that we should draft Lopez.)
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Post#4 » by pr0wler » Wed May 21, 2008 1:07 am

You guys should take a center - Lopez.
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Post#5 » by 4ho5ive » Wed May 21, 2008 1:07 am

Who said we are gonna try and turn him into a PG. I see us letting him do what he can do best, Create for himself, and help set up other guys. Its not that he will be taking shots from Al, its more that he and Foye will be taking offensive pressure off of Al. Plus he is a solid defender.

If both he and Foye can average around 15 and 6, then we will have a vicious backcourt. Hopefully Foye can average a few more points.
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Post#6 » by MP Eagle » Wed May 21, 2008 1:09 am

B Calrissian wrote:I disagree.

*(with the stuff about Mayo not fitting in with Foye and that we should draft Lopez.)


if you disagree..please tell me why...I feel like a lot of you all going with a well known name over what yall need.
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Post#7 » by deeney0 » Wed May 21, 2008 1:09 am

Watch OJ Mayo. He is a shooting guard. Foye is a PG or a combo, depending on your point of view. Mayo is a GREAT compliment to Foye, and unlike McCants, Mayo is a superb defender.

Draft Mayo, trade McCants.

Don't compare Mayo to Foye, compare Mayo to McCants. Mayo plays great D, McCants plays lousy D. Mayo is a good passer (for a SG), McCants is a sub par passer. Mayo is at least an inch taller. And imo, Mayo will be just as good a shooter as Shad.

If Lopez was even close to Mayo, we could have a discussion. But the gap between Mayo and Lopez is at least as large as the gap between Rose/Beasley and Mayo, maybe more. And Lopez isn't what the Wolves need from a center - all year people on this board have been craving a defense presence next to Al, Lopez is not that. There are better defensive centers later in the draft, including the other Lopez.
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Post#8 » by D1SGRUNTL3D » Wed May 21, 2008 1:12 am

4ho5ive wrote:Who said we are gonna try and turn him into a PG. I see us letting him do what he can do best, Create for himself, and help set up other guys. Its not that he will be taking shots from Al, its more that he and Foye will be taking offensive pressure off of Al. Plus he is a solid defender.

If both he and Foye can average around 15 and 6, then we will have a vicious backcourt. Hopefully Foye can average a few more points.

Im down!

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Post#9 » by TheProdigy » Wed May 21, 2008 2:22 am

deeney0 wrote:Watch OJ Mayo. He is a shooting guard. Foye is a PG or a combo, depending on your point of view. Mayo is a GREAT compliment to Foye, and unlike McCants, Mayo is a superb defender.

Draft Mayo, trade McCants.

Don't compare Mayo to Foye, compare Mayo to McCants. Mayo plays great D, McCants plays lousy D. Mayo is a good passer (for a SG), McCants is a sub par passer. Mayo is at least an inch taller. And imo, Mayo will be just as good a shooter as Shad.

If Lopez was even close to Mayo, we could have a discussion. But the gap between Mayo and Lopez is at least as large as the gap between Rose/Beasley and Mayo, maybe more. And Lopez isn't what the Wolves need from a center - all year people on this board have been craving a defense presence next to Al, Lopez is not that. There are better defensive centers later in the draft, including the other Lopez.


This sums up everything I've been thinking since the lottery. Best post of the day IMO.
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Post#10 » by prefuse73 » Wed May 21, 2008 2:23 am

pr0wler wrote:You guys should take a center - Lopez.



Are we suprised a seattle fan wants us to take Lopez....that wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that they wanted rose or mayo would it.
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Post#11 » by revprodeji » Wed May 21, 2008 2:39 am

What is wrong with a dynamic Foye/Mayo/Shad 3 guard group? You can even play the 3 at the same time.

Unless Shad is moved for the 5 we need I have no problem keeping him and using him in the 6th man role he played so well in.
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Post#12 » by 4ho5ive » Wed May 21, 2008 2:43 am

I agree, keep McCants unless we can find an enforcer.
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Post#13 » by younggunsmn » Wed May 21, 2008 3:59 am

To the original poster

1. Mayo is a 2. Foye is a 1. Coach HATES McCants and vice versa.
2. A dynamic scoring guard is EXACTLY what we need.
3. We are building long term, we don't need to be reactionary and draft a Center right now, and certainly not draft a role player with the 3rd overall pick.
4. 20 points per game on 16 shots is pretty good for a college player, especially when your teammates suck and your coach makes you milk the shot clock every fricking possession. do some research and cleanup y'all's grammar.
5. If i'm rating prospects, Rose and Beasley are 9's, Mayo is an 8, everyone else is 7 and lower.


Already the trolls come from the other teams trying to discredit the player they covet. Maybe the Oklahoma City Sonics can take Lopez and turn him into a chucker 2-guard like they did to Durant. Seriously though I think they should take Bayless and be happy with it. Bayless is very similiar to foye as a player.
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Post#14 » by B Calrissian » Wed May 21, 2008 4:02 am

MP Eagle wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



if you disagree..please tell me why...I feel like a lot of you all going with a well known name over what yall need.


We need the bpa and that is Mayo.
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Post#15 » by shrink » Wed May 21, 2008 4:08 am

MP Eagle wrote:Someone please tell me why are yall so hookeon Mayo? Yes he is a hot name but is that what the timberwolves need.


Actually, the wolves fans have been kind of contrarian. When Mayo WAS the hot name earlier in the college season, we weren't that interested in him. When he started dropping in mock drafts, we gave him a second look. Now he's starting to cycle back into popularity, and our draft jockeys were already there, ahead of the curve.
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Post#16 » by 4ho5ive » Wed May 21, 2008 4:32 am

younggunsmn wrote:To the original poster

1. Mayo is a 2. Foye is a 1. Coach HATES McCants and vice versa.
2. A dynamic scoring guard is EXACTLY what we need.
3. We are building long term, we don't need to be reactionary and draft a Center right now, and certainly not draft a role player with the 3rd overall pick.
4. 20 points per game on 16 shots is pretty good for a college player, especially when your teammates suck and your coach makes you milk the shot clock every fricking possession. do some research and cleanup y'all's grammar.
5. If i'm rating prospects, Rose and Beasley are 9's, Mayo is an 8, everyone else is 7 and lower.


Already the trolls come from the other teams trying to discredit the player they covet. Maybe the Oklahoma City Sonics can take Lopez and turn him into a chucker 2-guard like they did to Durant. Seriously though I think they should take Bayless and be happy with it. Bayless is very similiar to foye as a player.


Wow take it easy man, the last thing we need is to have people flooding our board with angry ignorant comments of hate, lets not start flame wars here.

IMO Foye will be a better player than Bayless will be.
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Post#17 » by GopherIt! » Wed May 21, 2008 4:58 am

Someone please tell me why are yall so hookeon Mayo? Yes he is a hot name but is that what the timberwolves need. He is no differenty from Foye, only difference he average more turn overs (in college at that) and shoot way more. You guy have an inside beast in AL. If yall get mayo, between him and McCants, shot will be take from AL.

Mayo was hot in high school but shot the ball way too much in college to get 20 points a game. So really you are drafting a 2 guard and try to turn him into an NBA point guard. Not Smart.. Go with Lopez and package McCants, jaric, and a pick to bring in a PG. JUST DONT DRAFT MAYO!!



Durant was hot in high school but shot the ball way too much in college to get 20 points a game. So really you are drafting a forward and try to turn him into an NBA guard. Not Smart.. Go with Bayless - bend over, grab your ankles and take it like a man. Go with JUST DONT FORGET TO SAY "THANK YOU DAVID STERN MAY I HAVE ANOTHER!!"
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Post#18 » by horaceworthy » Wed May 21, 2008 6:19 am

deeney0 wrote:Watch OJ Mayo. He is a shooting guard. Foye is a PG or a combo, depending on your point of view. Mayo is a GREAT compliment to Foye, and unlike McCants, Mayo is a superb defender.

Draft Mayo, trade McCants.

Don't compare Mayo to Foye, compare Mayo to McCants. Mayo plays great D, McCants plays lousy D. Mayo is a good passer (for a SG), McCants is a sub par passer. Mayo is at least an inch taller. And imo, Mayo will be just as good a shooter as Shad.

If Lopez was even close to Mayo, we could have a discussion. But the gap between Mayo and Lopez is at least as large as the gap between Rose/Beasley and Mayo, maybe more. And Lopez isn't what the Wolves need from a center - all year people on this board have been craving a defense presence next to Al, Lopez is not that. There are better defensive centers later in the draft, including the other Lopez.


Other than Mayo being a nice complement to Foye, being a better passer than McCants, and becoming at least as good a shooter as 'Shad, I disagree with pretty much everything you said in regards to the respective games of Mayo and Lopez.
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Post#19 » by MP Eagle » Wed May 21, 2008 12:28 pm

I was just asking a question.. It still seems like most people want mayo because it will get you all more T.V. time (you think)...lol But to each is own. for those who said they like Mayo over Shad because he is a better defender, that is a logical answer that I can agree with.

Maybe he will turn out to be o.k...117 turnovers in 33 games in 1216 minutes.. thats almost 4 turnovers a game in just 36 minutes a game. But maybe he will be one of those players that are better in the nba than they were in college like Deron Williams. Either way , I wish yall well. I just watch yall because of AL .
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Post#20 » by revprodeji » Wed May 21, 2008 6:43 pm

shrink wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
and our draft jockeys were already there, ahead of the curve.


TF21 and I have been talking about him in txt message for a couple months now. We have been buzzing on him big time.
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