McCants for Verajao?

Krapinsky · Post #1 » by **Krapinsky** » Mon May 26, 2008 6:01 pm

ESPN Rumor Central states Verajao could be on the block. What do you guys think of him playing next to Al? What he lacks in ideal size he seems to make up with in energy.

I think it would take something like McCants and Buckner to get it done. I know posters are a little split on what to do with McCants right now, so I'm interested to see what people think. A positive for me is that this makes us more inclined to draft Mayo instead of Lopez.

Foye/Telfair
Mayo/Jaric
Brewer/Gomes
Jefferson/Gomes
Verajao/#31

TheProdigy · Post #2 » by **TheProdigy** » Mon May 26, 2008 6:13 pm

That's a very interesting idea Krapinsky. At first glance I tend to reject the trade. Varejao doesn't offer much in terms of potential, what you see is what you get. Rashad will be fully recovered from the microfracture surgery next season and could be greatly improved. Not to mention he's been in Minnesota practicing with the guys.

The bottom line though: Mayo and Varejao > McCants and Lopez.

casey · Post #3 » by **casey** » Mon May 26, 2008 6:38 pm

DaKidKG wrote:Rashad will be fully recovered from the microfracture surgery next season

He was this season.

TheProdigy · Post #4 » by **TheProdigy** » Mon May 26, 2008 6:55 pm

It took Amare a full 2 years to get back to his level of production pre-injury. Rashad had his surgury in June 2006. I expect him to have more confidence in his knee next year than he did this past year.

4ho5ive · Post #5 » by **4ho5ive** » Mon May 26, 2008 6:59 pm

Im not buying what Sideshow Bob is selling.

deeney0 · Post #6 » by **deeney0** » Mon May 26, 2008 7:22 pm

McCants' problems didn't stem from lack of confidence or ability in his knee imo.

I'd trade McCants for any starting quality big. Next to Al, AV is that.

wolves_fan_82au · Post #7 » by **wolves_fan_82au** » Mon May 26, 2008 7:24 pm

Mccants will only get better imo

he just needs to cut the fouls and turnovers out of hes games

casey · Post #8 » by **casey** » Mon May 26, 2008 7:29 pm

deeney0 wrote:McCants' problems didn't stem from lack of confidence or ability in his knee imo.

Exactly. His problem is that he's not a good basketball player. Really good scorer but pretty much worthless in every other aspect. He's certainly expendable, I can't stand Varejao though.

Post #9 » by **Klomp** » Mon May 26, 2008 7:33 pm

There is no way Cleveland would do that.

Krapinsky · Post #10 » by **Krapinsky** » Mon May 26, 2008 7:49 pm

klomp44 wrote:There is no way Cleveland would do that.

Really? Wallace was getting most of Verajao's minutes in the playoffs. They also have Smith to play the 4, who was probably most effective for them. Moreover, this draft has a number of quality big men. They could easily draft Robin Lopez or a comparable player to replace him at 19. McCant's would be an upgrade for them at the 2. He can pretty much do everything Wally does, but better.

Cleveland might hesitate, but if Verajao is on the block, it's for a reason. I don't see them getting a better player than McCants in return.

SendEm · Post #11 » by **SendEm** » Mon May 26, 2008 8:05 pm

I can't see Cleveland trading an energetic big for such a below average short shooting guard.

MN Die Hard · Post #12 » by **MN Die Hard** » Mon May 26, 2008 8:47 pm

I dont like it. Once and for all we need to get a center to play in the middle, not a PF playing out of position.

Krapinsky · Post #13 » by **Krapinsky** » Mon May 26, 2008 9:03 pm

MN Die Hard wrote:I dont like it. Once and for all we need to get a center to play in the middle, not a PF playing out of position.

Well, assuming we don't draft Lopez, what other options do we have?

O'Bryant- we can give him a shot, but he might not even be good enough to make the team.

Kwame- most destructive player I've ever followed. No way.

Diop- Pipe dream. I can't see McHale/Taylor using the mid-level this season.

Curry- worse defensively than Verajao. Much worse contract.

Bogut- give up Mayo/#3, no way.

Whoever falls to the second round?- with this trade we'll still have this option.

Considering the alternatives, we could do a lot worse than playing Verajao at the 5.

deeney0 · Post #14 » by **deeney0** » Mon May 26, 2008 9:36 pm

Or a repeat of this year, play centerless.

digitaldropoff · Post #15 » by **digitaldropoff** » Mon May 26, 2008 10:00 pm

Surely you guys are kidding. First off...AV is no better than Joe Smith. They give you energy OFF the bench, play D and board. The whole flopping thing alone is enough for me to say no. But why move McCants, a proven scorer whether he starts or off the bench for a guy that is vastly overrated? Mayo could be good, but he could be no better than McCants...we just don't know. Fact is, if McCants gets a long leash this year and blows up, this would go down as one of the all time McHale blunders...which is hard to do.

deeney0 · Post #16 » by **deeney0** » Mon May 26, 2008 10:04 pm

McCant's leash has nothing to do with his success, or lack there of, in all aspects of the game that aren't scoring. It doesn't matter if he's the most dynamic scorer in the NBA if his idea of defense is to foul the opponent and his idea of passing is turning the ball over.

digitaldropoff · Post #17 » by **digitaldropoff** » Mon May 26, 2008 11:33 pm

I saw a cut back in those picky fouls and bone headed turnovers from the beginning of the season till the end. He got sent to time out, and improved because of it....give him a longer leash and let him prove you right or wrong...non of this 30 min one nite, 15 the next three.

mandurugo · Post #18 » by **mandurugo** » Mon May 26, 2008 11:36 pm

I wouldn't do it - Varejao is terrible to watch, much more annoying then Rashad (not an easy accomplishment). He wouldn't be a good compliment for Al, his defense is pretty weak. I think he's much worse than Joe Smith.