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Posted: Sun Jun 1, 2008 1:25 pm
by shrink
I know how I feel about this, but I want some feedback:
TOR GETS: McCants + #31 + #34
MIN GETS: Maceo Baston (expiring) + #17
Posted: Sun Jun 1, 2008 1:48 pm
by PeeDee
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Humphries expired?
Regardless, I don't think we'd have to give up both 2nd's in that package. Maybe I'm overvaluing McCants or undervaluing #17.
Posted: Sun Jun 1, 2008 2:09 pm
by TheFranchise21
I would do it if we removed either of the 2nds.
Posted: Sun Jun 1, 2008 2:11 pm
by shrink
Gah - you're right about Humphries. I just nabbed a traded from the Trade Board and brought it over (upping the #21 pick to #17). What if we substituted an expiring Maceo Baston?
Posted: Sun Jun 1, 2008 2:35 pm
by deeney0
I'm game for that, as I'm a card carrying member of the trade-McCants-for-any-first club.
Posted: Sun Jun 1, 2008 2:44 pm
by PeeDee
How about McCants to Philly for Booth and #16?
One of Speights, McGee, or Koufos should still be available. Maybe even Darrel Arthur?
Posted: Sun Jun 1, 2008 3:10 pm
by shrink
I've talked with the Philly people, and they want nothing to do with McCants, though they have some interest in Craig Smith. They need low post scoring and he did drop 36 on them. The problem is that they already have an undersized PF in Reggie Evans, so it would be hard to have two. In any event, they prefer the #16 to Smith anyway.
Posted: Sun Jun 1, 2008 3:15 pm
by PeeDee
They also have very little outside shooting.
Posted: Sun Jun 1, 2008 3:28 pm
by shrink
You're right, I went their first with McCants .. I think I have a good idea I'll post in another thread
Posted: Sun Jun 1, 2008 6:08 pm
by Tekkenlaw
Take #31 out of the deal and I'm down.
Posted: Sun Jun 1, 2008 7:20 pm
by 4ho5ive
They can have #31 if thats the deal breaker but then we keep #34. I dont want them to have both 2nd's and McCants.
Posted: Sun Jun 1, 2008 7:23 pm
by prefuse73
rather take a chance on Kwame and see if a foye - mayo - mccants rotation will work.
Posted: Sun Jun 1, 2008 10:19 pm
by john2jer
I'd do a sign and trade of Craig Smith for #16 in a heart beat, but obviously they'd have to draft for us and wait until July 1st. If Mareese Speights is the pick, I'd be in heaven.
Posted: Mon Jun 2, 2008 5:24 am
by TheFranchise21
Smith for a mid first rounder is not fair or realistic. Smith MIGHT garner a late first but at this point, it is widely known that he is a liability on defense.
Posted: Mon Jun 2, 2008 3:44 pm
by Winter Wonder
Winter Wonder wrote:I have been following the site here for a few years, but finally decided I had to post a thought on this. Try and be gentle.
Following a few threads on who we have been scouting and knowing our luck in the draft I am going off the asumption for this scenario that we are picking 5th-ish and Beasley, Rose, Lopez, and Mayo (could see Bayless instead of one if he comes out) are gone.
There has also been some recent talk of the Wolves' interest in the Italian small forward or possibly another prospect at this position (randolph?).
Combining these items with the thread on avaiable draft picks, would the following be of interest or am I misvalueing picks and players....
Draft Galinari with the #5
Trade to Toronto McCants (they have stated they have interest in a SG or SF for the pick, though not sure on how they value him and they may view him as a one year rental unless they can work out an extension) for their pick #17 ish? (believe McCants was a fringe lotto as well) and Baston for Salary purposes (not sure what his trade kicker does here but he is an expiring as well)
Draft Thabeet, McGee, Hibbert (whoever is avilable and top on our list at center) with the #17
Eventual Starting Line up
Foye
Brewer (the continue work on his jumper may make this possible)
Galinari (the ball handling skills make up for Brewer's deficiency here)
Jefferson
Thabeet
Telfair
Jaric
Gomes
Smith
etc on the bench
Not sure if we need to add sweetner, maybe one of our second rounders this year. Draft Omer Asik or another international player to keep stashed for next year.
The eventual line up makes us much longer and bigger. Scoring may be an issue. Foye would need to step up, Jefferson continue to improve, Brewer hit the mid range shot, Thabeet dunk his put backs, and Galinari show range and be creative with his skills and size.
Brewer locks down the tougher SG/Sf matchup, Thabeet the PF/C match up (not sure on his man def though), but would give us some possibilities.
Thoughts?
EDIT: May be selling low on McCants, probably don't want to throw in the second rounder... but for the stability and balance in line up and possible better team play, I still think I would do it. Had wrote this up yesterday and had posted it before reflecting more on it.
I knew this trade looked familiar! This was actually my first post on this site whihc I snuck in on the Trading for Wiz pick 16-18 thread. I bolded the trade. Forget about the #5 pick part since this was pre lottery.
I would not want to give up both 2nd rounders, but if I recall correctly, there wasn't much steam on this and Toronto was not too enthused. Regardless, I like the idea and Baston is an expiring, but would almost like to make this part of a bigger dea, but not sure on what the deal is.