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This is from the CHI Mod, coldfish, who's an excellent poster.

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coldfish wrote:Assuming that Miami goes Mayo at 2.

Bulls trade:
Tyrus
Noah
Hinrich
Simmons
2009 1st (top 3 protected)

Bulls receive
Jaric
Madsen
Lafrentz
Beasley

Minnesota trades
#3 Beasley
Madsen
Jaric

Minnesota receives
#13
Tyrus
Noah
Webster
2009 Bulls 1st

Portland trades
Lafrentz
Webster
13

Portland receives
Hinrich
Simmons

Minnesota is the tough one here. They have one stud in Jefferson. In one deal, they add a lot of young guys around him.

Foye / #13
Webster
Brewer / Tyrus
Jefferson
Noah

I'm still not sure its enough value, but I would think that Minnesota would have to at least listen.

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Chicago goes hyper young but builds around Beasley, Rose, Gordon and Deng.

That's temping, it could pay off big or blow up in our faces, depends on who is there at 13.

Yea, I do not like it one bit.

TT has been a bust thus far and would play the 10-15 behind Al.
Webster does nothing for me.
Noah is a keeper and I like him, but the 13th is too far back to make this work. We simply would not get the players we want with that pick.

I'd like that a lot

absolutely not. That's not worth Beasley. Value is WAAY off.

The only way I do anything but burst out laughing is if they offer Deng and Noah.

I wouldn't do that. wasn't it common sense that you need superstars to win in this league?

I'd be fine with that, I think, but I'd be curious to see what Thomas can fetch on the open market.

that's a stinker for MN. come on Coldfish! You can do better than that.

Not high on T2 at all, plus he plays the same position as Al. Not certain I would do it but, Foye for Noah, if the Bulls draft Beasley, is at least a more realistic possibility.

Ty Thomas is still Stro Swift 2.0, he has no position and he really doesnt excel at anything but blocking shots due to his athleticism. Why would we trade for TT for him to be a back-up?

Foye=Foye
Mayo>Webster
Gomes>Brew at SF right now
Jefferson=Jefferson
_____<Noah

No thanks

Christ, god no would I not make that pick.

I like Noah the best out of hte group we get back...and he should've been our guy last year

The biggest issue with this trade for me is Tyrus Thomas. He has no fit on this team and is what makes this deal not work. Chicago values him a ton, we value him little. If it were Deng in his place with any other tweaks we are back to really considering it. The value offered is not horrible, we just value those pieces less than the teams giving them up. Webster does minimal for me, but he is a decent Prospect and, of course, Portland loves him. The future pick may or may not be as valuable and protections would have to be figured out. Not sure what would be available at #13, so that would be hard to project the value of.

Regardless, alot of thought into a trade with close value. As is, I simply do not like the fit of the pieces, though with some tweaking, it is not as outlandish as it many make it sound. Just say no to Tyrus Thomas.

no, this is like an NBA Live trade where you throw mass quantities of solid assets on the trade table and walk away with Dwight Howard.

If Chicago wants to trade for Beasley, then they have to start with Deng/Noah
If they want to involve Portland, cool, then start with Deng/Przybilla/#13

Devilzsidewalk wrote:no, this is like an NBA Live trade where you throw mass quantities of solid assets on the trade table and walk away with Dwight Howard.

If Chicago wants to trade for Beasley, then they have to start with Deng/Noah
If they want to involve Portland, cool, then start with Deng/Przybilla/#13

Portland is not giving up Joel in a Hinrich deal. look to Chicago to add value, not Portland.

AZ BLAZER wrote:

Devilzsidewalk wrote:no, this is like an NBA Live trade where you throw mass quantities of solid assets on the trade table and walk away with Dwight Howard.

If Chicago wants to trade for Beasley, then they have to start with Deng/Noah
If they want to involve Portland, cool, then start with Deng/Przybilla/#13

Portland is not giving up Joel in a Hinrich deal. look to Chicago to add value, not Portland.

"Deng"

I like the concept but way too many players are involved. Many young players too. Often, trades of this size involve veterans and aging players, not young ones, simply because its too risky to be giving up on your own players you invested in, for another one.

I doubt Portland would do this trade anyway, it looks pretty bad from our side. We blow our whole capspace plan on Hinrich and Simmons and give up Webster and our pick. It is an incredible deal for Chicago though.