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As part of a Bulls-rebuild, the following simple deal was on the Trade Board, from one of the best, impartial trade-makers:

N.O.R.E. wrote:Trade 2:

Bulls Receive: Rashad McCants, Brian Cardinal

Wolves Receive: Hinrich

The Wolves get a proven player that is a better fit alongside Foye who can do a little bit of everything. They give up very little value and actually end up looking like a very good team - if they can find a shot-blocking C.

Financially, Hinrich's deal runs until 2012

2008-09 $10,000,000
2009-10 $9,500,000
2010-11 $9,000,000
2011-12 $8,000,000

.. so it impairs 2010 free agency. This is part of the reason for Hinrich's lower trade value, plus the risk of the long-term contract if a player gets injured. If we don't do the trade, Cardinal's on a two year deal, and McCants may, or may not, be re-signed.

You know Hinrich's game, I'd just add he grew up in Iowa, so he might have that Mike Miller contentment playing for the Wolves.

Ignoring Foye's performance tonight, and trying to plan longterm, would you do this deal?

I love this deal Hinrich is underrated IMO. But does Chicago do it?

I would do it in a second. Hinrich's defense help this team a ton.

Foye/Bassy/Ollie
Hinrich/Miller
Brewer/Gomes/Carney
Love/Smith/Madsen
Jefferson/Collins

I like that a lot more than the line up that started tonight.

I think the Boston pick would need to be added.

I would also approve of this deal.

I'd do that trade as well. I think that offer would probably need the Boston pick, but I'd do it.

I really don't think Rashad re-signs and there's no guarantee we can sign a difference maker with the cap space in the future.

i dont wanna lose mccants

but that deal is way to good to pass up

he is a good player but he has a big contract.. like a second marco jaric... i know KH is better than marco. we need to hard player. like westbrook, rose, beasley...

i think we made a lot mistake... we picked granger at 2004. we didnt trade roy. this year select westbrook.

westbrook/roy/granger/craig or another/al jef

i know this is more fantastic. but we can made it

I don't like Hinrich's contract either but I would probably do this deal.

Can we use some of our firsts to move Wittman while we are at it?

I see and hear a lot about Bulls basketball living in Chicago. My take - Hinrich isn't really a point guard. He's a good player (and more hard-nosed than his Harry Potter looks would belie) but he's got a funny game - not truly a distributor, and despite being a very good free throw shooter he's terrible from the field. Good defender, but undersized to defend 2s (especially in the Western Conference.) Hinrich, Gordon and Chris Duhon worked well enough as a three guard rotation for an East playoff team, but I'm inclined to think the success they did have was due more to coaching than talent... Scott Skiles demanded 100% commitment to defense. When he had young guys it worked okay, they outworked everyone on a nightly basis. Once those guys (Gordon and Deng especially) got into some contract issues, the focus fell apart.

I'd pass on this deal. Hinrich is flawed, and doesn't really fit as the floor leader the Wolves are looking for. I'd keep Foye in the lead guard role until the trade deadline at the very least... he needs a chance to grow into the role.

^^exactly. Hinrich is not an obvious #2 or a 5 yr pg for us. If we take on a guy that hurts our cap then that guy should be able to be a 5 yr starter and a legit #2 or 3 for us.

But he still has room to grow.

Here is his scouting report
-Great knowledge of the game...
-Good shooter...
-Superb quickness...
-Good vision of the court...
-Excellent defender...
-Puts a lot of effort...
-Could develop into one of the premiere point guards in the NBA.

See, those sound like something we need. Does this make Foye a sg? Are we jumping the gun a little here? Perhaps we need to ask for more to make up for that contract.

Noah+Hinrich for Cardinal+McCants+Carney. Do they want McCants or just the contract?

^ I really doubt CHI would add Noah to the mix if we only add Carney.

I'd do it. I'd prefer if Hinrich started at PG though, with Foye relegated to the 6th man role.

Hinrich, Bassy
Miller, Foye
Brewer, Gomes
Jefferson, Smith
Love, Collins

Dr.Krapinsky wrote:I'd do it. I'd prefer if Hinrich started at PG though, with Foye relegated to the 6th man role.

Hinrich, Bassy
Miller, Foye
Brewer, Gomes
Jefferson, Smith
Love, Collins

I think that's the best move too. Acquire a legitimate C and we have a nice rotation with Love backing up PF and Jefferson seeing some minutes at C.

I agree with rev that he's not a legitimate #2 for us which does give me some pause. We'd have a lot of #3 or fringe #3 types.