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They've both struggled a bit, but are young and would fill needs on this team.

Collins, Cardinal, Telfair, Cookie, Gomes

for

Deng, Hinrich, filler (Gray & Simmons?)



Something along those lines? Frees us up to focus on a big man with our first pick next year.

Guard rotation of: Foye, Miller, Hinrich
Swing rotation of: Miller, Deng, Brewer (eventually)
Big man rotation of: Jefferson, Love, Thabeet, Gray, Pekovic

Thoughts?

let's see whom we'll draft first before we should consider such a trade

I do this now....everyone is trying to get under for a shot at Wade, Bron, etc. and cap for Timberwolves is pretty much worthless. I like Hinrich and Deng has long arms and can run the floor They are still young and are at about 10,000.00 a peice.

I'd do that. Good deal.

I am probably in the minority by saying I wouldn't give much more though. Deng has really fallen off, and neither he or Hinrich has good contracts. In addition, there won't be a lot of offers for those guys either, with contracts past 2010.

I don't have much faith we'll bring back better players in the competitive 2010 draft. I just wish we could focus more on the elusive defensive center we need. Maybe include a pick for the questionable Noah (also struggling).

I dont know why Miami dont go to Bulls with Marion a huge expiring. Or take Beasley to Thunder and pluck them. Shrink those 10,000.00 deals look alot better tan going out on a 15,000.00 deal. Neither has had any injuries have they? micro fracture or anything like that?

Both Hinrich and Deng have fallen off big time, and from what I hear Deng is closer to 29 than his listed age of 23.

Not a chance. This is 2008, not 2006. We know what they've both became, and it's not pretty

I'd rather try and take a shot at Marvin Williams this offseason and attempt the Harden/Thabeet draft scenario.

No. Next question.

Hinrich is crap and it seems Deng has just played well for his new contract...so no I don't like that trade and wouldn't do it...because they have bad contracts...the risk of Deng alone would be ok but I don't want to have hinrich on our team, too.

invno1 wrote:I dont know why Miami dont go to Bulls with Marion a huge expiring. Or take Beasley to Thunder and pluck them. Shrink those 10,000.00 deals look alot better tan going out on a 15,000.00 deal. Neither has had any injuries have they? micro fracture or anything like that?

Exactly. This is often mentioned on the trade board too, but biased fans from one of the teams or the other always asks for too much.

I'm actually kind of proud of the posters after me, who've kept up on the pretty large swing in trade value of Deng and Hinrich, when maybe only 3 months ago, many would have given up a lot more! I like the fact the OP stuck Cardinal in the deal too. If Noah was in the deal instead of Gray, would you guys do it? Its still really expensive.

Yeah, I think this makes more sense for Miami for Marions exp. I like Marvin Williams he gave Boston fits. Who are the teams under the cap this year...Timberwolves could maybe move Miller & Smith as well for cap. Especialy if McHale has some kinda plan to bring that big center and Hardin who by the way better be 6'5" if he is 6'4' or under I really question that idea.

invno1 wrote: Who are the teams under the cap this year?

2009 teams who will be far enough under the cap to offer more than the MLE

1. Memphis
2. OKC

Maybes:
Atlanta -- if they waive Marvin Williams this summer instead of extending $7.35 qualifying offer

Detroit -- if they don't trade Rasheed or Iverson

Portland -- if they don't trade LaFrentz and/or some of Blake, Outlaw, Frye, Diogu to compete this year

Miami -- if they don't trade Marion to compete this year

Now, we should keep an eye on how successful these teams are, because its difficult for owners to explain to a fanbase that to save money, they won't increase a competitive team's talent by trading a valuable expiring. Right now, these four teams are all entrenched in the play-off race, in positions 4-6.

http://www.nba.com/standings/team_recor ... d_Cnf.html

I dunno shrink kind of brainwashed me about 2010. I'd probably rather roll the dice on a rapidly aging duo like Redd and McGrady or Joe Johnson and McGrady where we have some guys that I can envision making clutch baskets in the playoffs and carrying a team; I can't see that from Hinrich and Deng.

I'd go for Deng alone though in the right capacity I think maybe possibly potentially.

No way! Both those guys are vastly overpaid with deteriorating games. Hinrich i guess wouldn't be completely crazy because he's on a descending contract, but just say no to Deng (who many on the Bulls board now refer to as Ding or Dung).

A better plan if you want to go after Bulls players would be to look into somehow getting Ben Gordon, who has actually developed a nice all around game to go with his gifted scoring ability, and let McCants walk. Chicago fans are bemoaning the fact that we paid Deng instead of Gordon lasts summer.

Worm Guts wrote:Both Hinrich and Deng have fallen off big time, and from what I hear Deng is closer to 29 than his listed age of 23.

Joke I assume?

give me roy n mayo back ill be happy

canucklife21 wrote:give me roy n mayo back ill be happy

Are you going to mention those two in every one of your posts here?

LordBaldric wrote:A better plan if you want to go after Bulls players would be to look into somehow getting Ben Gordon, who has actually developed a nice all around game to go with his gifted scoring ability, and let McCants walk. Chicago fans are bemoaning the fact that we paid Deng instead of Gordon lasts summer.

Gordon is an expiring, so he's not a huge risk. I would do something like McCants and Telfair plus late round pick in a heartbeat. We would probably suck defensively, but a Gordon-Foye back court would put up a lot of points.

As for the original trade, I have trouble getting Deng's performance in the playoffs out of my head. That and thinking last year's bad year was due to contract issues and the spectre of being traded for Kobe, has me still thinking he could be a good player. It's a huge gamble as both have underperformed, but at the same time it's buying low and I think they're better than the players we give out. I'm leaning towards yes, but not emphatically.