Andrea Bargnani

Metin91 · Post #1 » by **Metin91** » Mon Jan 5, 2009 1:59 am

I see the raptors might be willing to move him I think we should make a move for him something like:
mccants and miami 1st for him should be able to do it

Frozen316 · Post #2 » by **Frozen316** » Mon Jan 5, 2009 2:33 am

and have him play SF? :o
Sounds like fun

B Calrissian · Post #3 » by **B Calrissian** » Mon Jan 5, 2009 2:34 am

It should be mentioned that he is playing better defense. He is also averaging 1.3 blocks. So he isn't as soft as he was coming into the league. He can play some sf. He might not be the quickest player out there I bet he can guard SFs as well as Miller covers SGs. A Bargnani/Jefferson/Love frontcourt is huge.

shrink · Post #4 » by **shrink** » Mon Jan 5, 2009 2:39 am

Well, to start with, you need to salary match. McCants + Booth doesn't make it, McCants + Carney does, Both McCants and Booth are averaging about 10 ppg. Bargnani is finally starting to not look horrible, so Raptor fans would want more for him. He's expensive for a young player on that #1 money (5,176,440 6,527,491).

I wouldn't hate it, but personally, I'd rather keep the pick, and lock in a cheap young talent for a number of years.

canucklife21 · Post #5 » by **canucklife21** » Mon Jan 5, 2009 3:34 am

wolves fan. im from toronto and this is a player u must PASS on . prolly one of the top 5 worst 1st overall picks in history not worth anything pass

deeney0 · Post #6 » by **deeney0** » Mon Jan 5, 2009 7:08 am

I'm not interested in front court help. Love and Jefferson need more minutes together, not someone barging in (pardon the pun). I'd love to move McCants for someone like McCants only less carcinogenic, though.

Post #7 » by **revprodeji** » Mon Jan 5, 2009 3:31 pm

it would come back to if we think he can play the 3 or only the 4.

But is he that much of an upgrade over Gomes?

Devilzsidewalk · Post #8 » by **Devilzsidewalk** » Mon Jan 5, 2009 3:36 pm

he can play the 3 the 4 or the 5, take him if you can get him

we have no height and no outside shooting, he's a boost to both

Winter Wonder · Post #9 » by **Winter Wonder** » Mon Jan 5, 2009 4:00 pm

He is versatile enough to play multiple positions, but the main interest from MN, I would think, would be too see if he can play the 5. He isn't a back to the basket banger and would spread the floor on offense.

Defense would be scarey, even with his improvement. He is tall and long and may be able to service as a help defender, but he would get pushed around in the post unless he has bulked up a bit.

Would be an interesting prospect, but don't think we can afford to pay what Toronto would be asking (hefty price tag on a big gamble)

Devilzsidewalk · Post #10 » by **Devilzsidewalk** » Mon Jan 5, 2009 4:53 pm

he's good enough to be our 3rd bigman, if he's cheap enough, I'd love to have him.

karch34 · Post #11 » by **karch34** » Mon Jan 5, 2009 7:37 pm

I'm not enamored with the idea, but would like to see one player with size added to the Love-Jefferson PF-C tandem. If the cost isn't much it might be worth a gamble (the Miami pick is where I hesitate--Utah or Boston, no problem). I'm sure Stack would be all for it.

Gunny · Post #12 » by **Gunny** » Mon Jan 5, 2009 11:08 pm

I don't know. The last big man who the Wolves had who was drafted #1 overall didn't work out too well.

PeeDee · Post #13 » by **PeeDee** » Mon Jan 5, 2009 11:09 pm

Lol, none of them have.

Post #14 » by **revprodeji** » Tue Jan 6, 2009 3:36 pm

It depends on what Toronto wants for him.

I would do McCants + Carney (if they just want cap space) then add the uta or Bos (or both even)

The kid is young, had height and a decent complimentary skill set. It would also add a roster spot so we can get Livingston.

(I would see if they wanted cookie perhaps)

Jonathan Watters · Post #15 » by **Jonathan Watters** » Wed Jan 7, 2009 4:20 pm

Look at what Bargnani has accomplished this year when Jermaine O'Neal has been hurt. He's a very good player when he isn't playing SF/the lane isn't clogged by 2 other bigs. He'd work well in tandem with either Love or Jefferson, IMO. But all three of them at the same time would be a disaster, obviously.

Post #16 » by **revprodeji** » Wed Jan 7, 2009 4:24 pm

yup...But if we can get him cheap I would love it.

karch34 · Post #17 » by **karch34** » Wed Jan 7, 2009 4:29 pm

Smith and McCants plus Utah/Bos pick actually wouldn't be bad. I think McCants saves them some money and Smith would give them a nice bench player behind Bosch and O'Neil.

As Rev said Carney would work too, but I actually would like to see him stay as I like him as a bench player for us.

shrink · Post #18 » by **shrink** » Wed Jan 7, 2009 4:42 pm

Before I commited positive trade value assets, I'd have to ask myself if he's worth his contract:

Andrea Bargnani

2008-09 $5,176,440
2009-10 $6,527,491
2010-11 $8,485,738 (qualifying offer)

With the upside, I'd say he's barely worth that much money. McCants and Carney I'd do easily, but when we start talking about Craig Smith and picks, then I start thinking hard. He's young, but his rookie deal is no picnic.

Post #19 » by **revprodeji** » Wed Jan 7, 2009 4:52 pm

That QO is nasty.

shrink · Post #20 » by **shrink** » Thu Jan 8, 2009 3:26 am

I think I'm under-estimating Bargnani, because he's gotten hot lately.

Over his last five games, he's at 22 PPG in about FG 50%.