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Roll the dice with Amare
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:26 pm
by Dewey
Minnesota Trade BreakdownChange in Team Outlook: +10.6 ppg, +1.0 rpg, and -2.2 apg.
Incoming Players
Amare Stoudemire
6-10 PF from Cypress Creek (HS)
20.8 ppg, 8.2 rpg, 2.0 apg in 37.1 minutes
Outgoing Players
Jason Collins
7-0 C from Stanford
1.1 ppg, 1.5 rpg, 0.5 apg in 9.8 minutes
Mike Miller
6-8 SG from Florida
9.1 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 3.7 apg in 30.7 minutes
Phoenix Trade BreakdownChange in Team Outlook: -10.6 ppg, -1.0 rpg, and +2.2 apg.
Incoming Players
Jason Collins
7-0 C from Stanford
1.1 ppg, 1.5 rpg, 0.5 apg in 9.8 minutes
Mike Miller
6-8 SG from Florida
9.1 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 3.7 apg in 30.7 minutes
Outgoing Players
Amare Stoudemire
6-10 PF from Cypress Creek (HS)
20.8 ppg, 8.2 rpg, 2.0 apg in 37.1 minutes
Amare and Love would take the reigns to finish the year.
Re: Roll the dice with Amare
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:30 pm
by cpfsf
Pretty sure PHX can get a lot more than an expiring and Mike Miller
Re: Roll the dice with Amare
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:30 pm
by kandiking
The suns could get lot more than that for Amare. We just don't have the assets for him. It'd be a nice proposition but it just ain't happening.
Re: Roll the dice with Amare
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:32 pm
by funkatron101
kandiking wrote:The suns could get lot more than that for Amare. We just don't have the assets for him. It'd be a nice proposition but it just ain't happening.
We do, but nothing we are willing to give up.
Re: Roll the dice with Amare
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:33 pm
by Krapinsky
If that's all PHX wants (it isn't) then we should do it and trade Amare to a third team-- i.e. Chicago/Portland/Golden State/Any one willing to give another top 5 pick
Re: Roll the dice with Amare
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:48 pm
by RD&KG2
personally, I don't like amare that much, but I would be willing to give up quite a bit for him.
Re: Roll the dice with Amare
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:55 pm
by PeeDee
Why trade for a guy that'll want to leave in a year in a half?
Re: Roll the dice with Amare
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:17 pm
by prefuse73
well for that package it wouldn't matter if he left in a year and half. I would include the miami pick as well.
Re: Roll the dice with Amare
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:20 am
by TheFranchise21
Roll the dice??? Usually that term implies a high level of risk. There is no risk involved in this trade!
Re: Roll the dice with Amare
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:45 am
by Calinks
Amare would jump ship as soon as another boat came passing.
Re: Roll the dice with Amare
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:47 am
by B Calrissian
How about helping Washington get Amare..
Wolves get: Butler, Thomas
Suns get: McGee, Blatche, Miller, Collins, Miami 1st
Wizards get: Amare, Barnes, Smith, Amundson
Edit- Changed it to add more value for Phx.
Re: Roll the dice with Amare
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:08 pm
by shrink
Unlike Chris Bosh, Amare is eligible to sign an extension to his four year deal at the time of the trade, so he'll be more attractive to most teams, including ours.
However, personally I'm not a fan of the guy, and regardless of his numbers before Nash, I think Nash heavily influences hos numbers. I don't think he'd be happy here, and I'm not convinced he would make a good high post/low post combination with Al Jefferson.
I'd take him for this price, but I think a three team deal sending him elsewhere would make more sense. Its ironic I started with Biedrins and ended up on the same package (plus MIA 1st) as the OP, but I think Collins value to PHO just makes sense in both deals.
Re: Roll the dice with Amare
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:04 pm
by shrink
Great article by David Aldridge on how the global economy has cost overs millions, and how many are shifting to making trades based on economic, not basketball, reasons.
http://www.nba.com/2009/news/features/0 ... index.htmlKaman, Chandler, Amare, etc.
Re: Roll the dice with Amare
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:18 pm
by wolves_fan_82au
maybe we can try for a 3 way with portland
portland gets Amare
wolves get Frye,Bayless,Lopez
suns get Alridge,collins,Miller,Porland 1st,Mia 1st or craig smith
wolves
c-Lopez/Frye
PF-Love/Smith
SF-Gomes/Carney
SG-Foye/Mccants
PG-Bayless/Telfair
minnesota gets a defensive center to pair with love and jefferson next year
suns
c-O'Neal/Collins
pf-Alridge/Barnes
sf-Miller/Hill
sg-Richardson/Barbosa
pg-Nash/dragic
add depth in miller gets a starter in alridge and a couple of draft picks
portland
c-Oden
pf-Amare
sf-Outlaw/Batum
sg-Roy/Webster
pg-Rodriguez
gets Amare the best player in this deal
Re: Roll the dice with Amare
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:27 pm
by invno1
Wasent Amare looked at a lil when the KG deal went down, in talks with Atl and Phx. Suns I think have his value very high. It dosent work in Phx and I dont see this move putting the Timberwolves over the top while taking on big salary.
Re: Roll the dice with Amare
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:22 pm
by shrink
For those seeking an update, supposedly POR (LaFrentz, Bayless and DIOGU, not aldridge) and MIA are out in the amare sweepstakes, and the leading contenders are CLE (Wally + Hickson + 2010 1st) or CHI (Gooden + Noah + Tyrus Thomas).
Re: Roll the dice with Amare
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:35 pm
by Krapinsky
Did you read that somewhere? I'm bored in my income tax class and could use something to pass the time. Thanks.
Re: Roll the dice with Amare
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:43 pm
by invno1
Wiretap Headlines
Re: Roll the dice with Amare
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:54 pm
by Krapinsky
Nope. That is still the old Bayless + Alfridge rumor from last night. I think Shrink is quoting a poster on the T & T thread who heard it on the radio.
Re: Roll the dice with Amare
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:56 pm
by shrink
Dr.Krapinsky wrote:Nope. That is still the old Bayless + Aldridge rumor from last night. I think Shrink is quoting a poster on the T & T thread who heard it on the radio.
Yep. For whatever that's worth.
It makes a lot more sense than Aldridge, I think. If POR offered all that, Amare would be in Portland as we speak.