!@% Sebastian!

[shrink]

ORL: Telfair > Rafer Alston

MIA: I think Telfair's > Chalmers, but Chalmers is a better fit next to Wade, and would start over Telfair.

SAC: Telfair > Udrih

WAS: Telfair > Mike James -- Critt has a whole 2 points tonight.

CHA Felton .. bleh

Still, while we can say he'd start over some of the dregs of the NBA starting PG crowd, he's still not even close to an average NBA starter on the floor. Its tough to complain though, because with that sweet contract, he's certainly more valuable than many of these PG's.

[Jonathan Watters]

Considering that neither one of them should ever be in a position to take a tough shot, this couldn't be less relevant. What is relevant is that Chalmers can hit spot up jumpers at a respectable clip, making him a serviceable roleplayer. He also plays defense. Teflair can't, and doesn't...

Who is more likely to have to take a tough shot: a PG who plays with Dwayne Wade, or a PG who plays with Al Jefferson?

Considering that neither one of them should ever be in a position to take a tough shot, this couldn't be less relevant. What is relevant is that Chalmers can hit spot up jumpers at a respectable clip, making him a serviceable roleplayer. He also plays defense. Teflair can't, and doesn't...

[shrink]

I hope people have read the Canis Hoopus article on Telfair. I think Robson just sung his praises too.

Anyway, I really only stopped by to post to wonder what's up with Bayless? When did rookies start injecting stuff like this. He didn't have to call Telfair out like that .. nobody was even talking to him (as usual) .. but when did rookies start doing this?

[B Calrissian]

ORL: Telfair > Rafer Alston

MIA: I think Telfair's > Chalmers, but Chalmers is a better fit next to Wade, and would start over Telfair.

MIL: Telfair => Ridnour. He's worse than Sessions .. is he starting PG yet?

SAC: Telfair > Udrih

WAS: Telfair > Mike James (Arenas isn't back yet, right?)

CHA Felton .. bleh

Still, while we can say he'd start over some of the dregs of the NBA starting PG crowd, he's still not even close to an average NBA starter on the floor. Its tough to complain though, because with that sweet contract, he's certainly more valuable than many of these PG's.

Telfair wouldn't get any minutes on the Bobcats or Bucks. Zero.

[Jonathan Watters]

ORL: Telfair > Rafer Alston

So he's better than Jameer Nelson's injury replacement? What does that have to do with anything?

MIA: I think Telfair's > Chalmers, but Chalmers is a better fit next to Wade, and would start over Telfair.

If you can ever come up with a reason why, just let me know...

MIL: Telfair => Ridnour. He's worse than Sessions .. is he starting PG yet?

Not even close statistically. Care to justify this one? Maybe, "stats are just a suggestion?", something like that?

SAC: Telfair > Udrih

How is Telfair better than Udrih?

WAS: Telfair > Mike James (Arenas isn't back yet, right?)

Gilbert Arenas is Washington's starting PG under normal circumstances.

CHA Felton .. bleh

So...you think Telfair is better than Felton? Or you just don't like Felton...

Still, while we can say he'd start over some of the dregs of the NBA starting PG crowd, he's still not even close to an average NBA starter on the floor. Its tough to complain though, because with that sweet contract, he's certainly more valuable than many of these PG's.

He's the worst starting PG in the league not including injuries to starters. That is plain as day, if you take out the "he's a Timberwolf and he's better because I say so" defense.

Is this really such a horrible admission? You'll all be admitting in two years when he's gone and the Wolves have a new hotshot you are overrating, so why not speed up the process?

[Rakocevicftw]

If you can ever come up with a reason why, just let me know...

He's a better passer

How is Telfair better than Udrih?

He's a better passer.

Gilbert Arenas is Washington's starting PG under normal circumstances.

Nothing about Gilbert Arenas' horrible injury situation is abnormal. It is now the norm.

[shrink]

The question was where would Telfair start, not whether the other team's current starter is a back-up. People need to remember that TELFAIR was supposed to be a back-up, and he's PAID like a back-up too. I suppose people can complain that Sebastian isn't as good as some other teams $6-$15 mil starter .. but we're getting a tremendous bargain for his production at $2.3 mil.

I admit, I look at things slightly differently because I always have my head in the payroll and not on the floor, but when I hear people complaining that Telfair isn't good enough, to me it sounds like people leaving the Drive Thru at Wendy's complaining that Manny's is better.

[deeney0]

Manny's has a Drive Thru now? Talk about recession.

[Jonathan Watters]

If you can ever come up with a reason why, just let me know...

He's a better passer

How is Telfair better than Udrih?

He's a better passer.

By this logic, Telfair is better than Dwight Howard. And so are Chalmers and Udrih. A mediocre effort, even by embarrassingly low standard you've already set.

Gilbert Arenas is Washington's starting PG under normal circumstances.

Nothing about Gilbert Arenas' horrible injury situation is abnormal. It is now the norm.

And then the Wizards traded their backup. And their third stringer is still on the same level as Telfair. Once again, claiming that Telfair is better than Washington's third string PG when Washington is going out of their way to make sure they don't have a legitimate PG proves absolutely nothing about Telfair. Why do I have to repeat myself on this?

Just think of all that sweet, succulent cap space the Wolves could have saved by drafting Chalmers and not resigning Telfair!

[revprodeji]

I said "borderline starter" not legit NBA starter.

[4ho5ive]

Mo Williams
Rajon Rondo
Jameer Nelson
Mike Bibby
Mario Chalmers
Rodney Stuckey
Andre Miller
Luke Ridnour
Derrick Rose/Kirk Hinrich
Devin Harris
Raymond Felton/DJ Augustine
TJ Ford/Jarret Jack
Chris Duhon/Nate Robinson
Jose Calderon
Gilbert Arenas

Derrick Fisher/Jordan Farmar
Tony Parker
Aaron Brooks/Kyle Lowry
Deron Williams
Steve Blake
Chris Paul
Chauncey Billups
Jason Kidd
Steve Nash
Monta Ellis
Russell Westbrook/Earl Watson
Mike Conley
Baron Davis
Beno Udrih

I dont see one player on this list that i prefer Telfair over. I dont know one team that would start Telfair over their starting PG. Thats 36 players listed. I guess Telfair is a top 50 PG in this league. Borderline starter he is not.

[john2jer]

To be fair, though, Gilbert Arenas is a lawn ornament now.

[Jonathan Watters]

To be fair, though, Gilbert Arenas is a lawn ornament now.

Telfair is a better starting PG than your average lawn ornament. This is something I will concede.

Although I know quite a few of the gnomes that shoot a better percentage from the field...

[Zeitgeister]

I said "borderline starter" not legit NBA starter.

He's on the wrong side of the border.

[Rakocevicftw]

By this logic, Telfair is better than Dwight Howard.

Yes, Telfair is a much, much better point guard than Dwight Howard.

[Jonathan Watters]

Well obviously, he's a better passer.

[Rakocevicftw]

Well obviously, he's a better passer.

[Rakocevicftw]

Passing is such a minor skill for a point guard.

The things you learn!

[Jonathan Watters]

No it isn't. It's the only skill for a PG. Everything else is meaningless. Oh, passing and cap space.

[Rakocevicftw]

No it isn't. It's the only skill for a PG. Everything else is meaningless. Oh, passing and cap space.

Ahhhh so now it's straw man time.

Your versatility in bad argumentation is fantastic.