MIN - MIL

[shrink]

MIN GETS: Luke Ridnour, Joe Alexander, Francisco Elson, Malik Allen, #10 pick

MIL GETS: Sebastian Telfair, Craig Smith, Mark Madsen, Bobby Brown, 2nd rounder, $2.3 mil TPE

This is an "expirings-for-expirings" deal (+ Telfair)

WHY FOR MIL: This deal is all about cap savings. It creates a $2.3 mil TPE, and moves a $2 mil pick, to provide $4.3 mil in raw, 2009 cap savings. Some of that $4.3 should be doubled for the lux, and perhaps include an additional $2 mil for retaining your lux share if you get under, so you might be talking $10 mil in actual savings. This is vitally important, because the Bucks owner refuses to go over the lux, but wants to be able to sign Sessions and Villanueva. Telfair would be a decent and economical back-up for Sessions, and Craig Smith could work with Bogut behind him.

WHY FOR MIN: Everyone MIN is taking on is an expiring, so they don't affect their 2010 raw cap space (well, I suppose the pick does). Taylor pays $4.3 ($2 is the salary for the #10), but it doesn't affect their 2009 lux, 2009 salary cap, or their longterm plans. That money gives them a late lottery pick, a prospect in Joe Alexander, and its not like Elson or Ridnour would be useless on our team either. Hopefully we could combine this with our pick to try to move up in the draft,


Unnecessary math, for my fellow nerds.

($11,083,360 - $100,000)/1.25 = $8,786,688

$11,083,360 - $8,786,688 = $2,296,672 TPE + $2 for the pick = $4.3 mil in savings

With a gift card of $8,786,688 minimum, The T-Wolves store might put together a package of:

$2.5 Telfair (not an expiring, but actually gets a reasonable $2.7 in 2010-11)
$2.3 Craig Smith (exp)
$2.84 Madsen (exp)
$0.44 2nd rounder (exp, and unguaranteed)
$0.74 Bobby Brown (exp)
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$8.82 TOTAL .. This is just barely enough, so it maximizes your TPE savings.

[Devilzsidewalk]

I'd feel bad for Milwaukee if thats the best offer they can get, but as a MN fan I'd be happy to fleece them, just name the time and the place

[john2jer]

Smells like chloroform to me.

Sign me up.

I saw Ridnour make a crazy good pass once when he was in Seattle, I liked it. He's HOF material.

[Basti]

I don't think Milwaukee will do it and that was worded nicely. I doubt Milwaukee will give up a prospect and a lottopick for such relative minor cap savings and Telfair.

[Krapinsky]

I'd do it without Alexander.

[Foye]

Where can I sign that deal?

[big3_8_19_21]

I can't imagine anyone giving up that much for savings unless it was absolutely massive savings.

[shrink]

I can't imagine anyone giving up that much for savings unless it was absolutely massive savings.

Alexander is a prospect that has been disappointing so far, and the #10 (ish) pick is $2 mil in guaranteed salary that puts Sessions and/or Villanueva farther out of reach.

I asked MIL posters to describe their attachment to the five assets, and heard this:

Entirely Despensible And Need To Go Now
Ridnour
Allen
Elson (the best of the bunch and worth keeping, but not at the expense of better, younger players)

Will Part With If The Price Is Right
Alexander
2009 Lottery Pick

I haven't received particularly negative responses on the MIL board

viewtopic.php?f=21&t=894731&p=19089814#p19089814

I assume on our end, Joe Alexander isn't a deal-breaker either way, but we'd pay the $2 mil extra ($4 mil with his salary) to get the pick to trade? Or does someone have stong feelings about Alexander? He never really emerged on my radar this year.

[Foye]

Don't think Alexander would do anything...

He was simply drafted way to high and will probably a player who ends up being traded very often...

I'd rather go after Bayless then after Alexander.

Right now, Alexander seems to be a bust whereas I've still hope Bayless will turn out to be a good nba player.

[southern wolf]

Yes please.

[B Calrissian]

Don't think Alexander would do anything...

He was simply drafted way to high and will probably a player who ends up being traded very often...

I'd rather go after Bayless then after Alexander.

Right now, Alexander seems to be a bust whereas I've still hope Bayless will turn out to be a good nba player.

This isn't a trade to go after Alexander. It's a trade to go after the 10th pick.

[revprodeji]

Unless we can package those small bits for a big one then why bother?