Your mission: build a contender for the playoffs next season

theGreatRC · Post #1 » by **theGreatRC** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 6:56 am

Rev got me thinking, I am also in the same boat in that if we leave fans disappointed next season with what we can accomplish draft wise and FA wise, i'll be slowly slipping away from the Timberwolves. I know you can't immediately tell what you have from a rookie when you draft them, but Mayo for Love left a sour taste in many fan's mouths(Myself included, although I like Love). This is not a Love bashing/regret thread, this is a thread to see if we have the pieces, money, picks to assemble a roster that you believe can be a contender for the playoffs next season.

I'd love to see what you guys could come up with, 90% of you are very creative in trades, the other 10% are named theGreatRC and the_incredible_basti ( jk basti love you no homo )

Post #2 » by **Basti** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 9:30 am

theGreatRC wrote:Rev got me thinking, I am also in the same boat in that if we leave fans disappointed next season with what we can accomplish draft wise and FA wise, i'll be slowly slipping away from the Timberwolves. I know you can't immediately tell what you have from a rookie when you draft them, but Mayo for Love left a sour taste in many fan's mouths(Myself included, although I like Love). This is not a Love bashing/regret thread, this is a thread to see if we have the pieces, money, picks to assemble a roster that you believe can be a contender for the playoffs next season.

I'd love to see what you guys could come up with, 90% of you are very creative in trades, the other 10% are named theGreatRC and the_incredible_basti ( jk basti love you no homo )

but... but... I can be creative too. I'd trade the floor in Target Center, 3 of McHale's sweaters, 5 bottles of the "miracle Love glass cleaner" and 2 flight tickets to New Orleans for Chris Paul, Tyson Chandler and their unprotected 1st rounders of 2010 and 2012. not enough?

Biff Cooper · Post #3 » by **Biff Cooper** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 1:03 pm

I don't think it would be tough to trade for a bunch of good players with bad contracts, and sign a good free agent to a MLE that would make us a playoff contender. I don't think that is the best route for long term success or making us a championship contender in a few years, but you never know. If Jefferson comes back healthy, and we have a solid offseason draft and trade wise, I give us a 20-25% chance of making the playoffs next year without doing anything drastic (Shrink may disagree).

Devilzsidewalk · Post #4 » by **Devilzsidewalk** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 1:06 pm

Mike Miller & Craigers for Hinrich and Noah

Telfair to Memphis for a future top 59 protected 2nd rounder

draft Evans, James, Gani Lawlz, and Heytveldt

C Love PF Jefferson SF James SG Evans PG Hinrich
6 Foye
7 Gomes
8 Noah
9 Gani
10 Brewer
11 Brown
12 Heytveldt
13 Cardinal
14 Mad Diggidy

perimeter defense? check
infusion of athleticism? oh yea, check
some real centers? Not the 7 foot 2 280lb monsters, but 6'11 240lb athletic guys in Noah and Heytveldt. Check

john2jer · Post #5 » by **john2jer** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 2:23 pm

With Jefferson out until January 3rd, I don't think the play-offs are much of an option. I'll be completely happy, though, if we pick up future assets and draft guys that are pieces towards a play-off contender in 2010-11.

Devilzsidewalk · Post #6 » by **Devilzsidewalk** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 2:36 pm

I read on the Wizards board a couple guys theorizing they should trade their pick this draft to a sucky team for a veteran and that teams 1st rounder next year so they can have a chance at John Wall next draft

trade our Miami and Utah picks to LAC for our future pick back, then trade 2010 pick + Mike Miller to Washington for their pick this year, Etan, and Nick Young

the we take Rubio and Thabeet and win 42 games bwahahaha

ritt0093 · Post #7 » by **ritt0093** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 5:11 pm

I've tried to create a solution that is more outside the box.

1st trade:

MIN sends/IND receives:
Brian Cardinal ($6,750,000)
BOS 1st round pick (currently #28)
UTH 1st round pick (currently deferred to 2010)

IND sends/MIN receives:
Jeff Foster($6,077,500, $6,655,000 )
IND 1st round pick (currently #12)

IND clears cap space in the important summer of 2010. MIN turns two low picks and an average player into a C for short term and another lottery pick.

2nd trade

MIN sends/LAC recieve:
IND 1st round pick (currently #12)
MIA 1st round pick (currently #19?)
Craig Smith($2,300,000)
Rights to Peckovic

LAC send/MIN receives:
LAC 1st round pick (currently 3)
MIN 1st round pick returned

Its been proposed before to send the MIA pick to LA for our 1st returned. This just expands on that deal.

LAC pick and MIN pick can be used to get the best point guard and best big availible

Roster:

3 guard rotation: Rubio/jennings, Foye and Brewer
SF:Miller/Gomes, Miller can also play SG if needed on certain nights
4 Big man rotation: Love, Jefferson, Thabeet, and Foster

=9 man rotation in total with more size and athleticism than our current lineup.

Devilzsidewalk · Post #8 » by **Devilzsidewalk** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 5:21 pm

didn't Indiana turn down all Jeff Foster deals around the deadline? They seem to love the guy in a borderline creepy manner, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't trade him in that deal

Krapinsky · Post #9 » by **Krapinsky** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 5:31 pm

I'm not advocating this plan, as I would much rather use our draft picks and hope for the playoffs the season after next, or even 2011-2012. That's just better for the long term health of the franchise. But here is one way to go about it.

Out: Cardinal/Gomes/Foye/Telfair
In: Vince Carter/CDR

Out: Miller/Smith/# 17
In: Hinrich/Noah/# 13

Sign with MLE: Josh Childress

Draft: Thabeet #5 or BPA/Ty Lawson #13/Sam Young #20 (by trading Boston + Utah)/ Danny Green - 2nd (these are players who are ready to contribute, sans Thabeet)

Hinrich/Lawson
Carter/Brewer/Green
Childress/Young
Love/Noah
Jefferson/Thabeet

ritt0093 · Post #10 » by **ritt0093** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 5:32 pm

I guess I don't know about their attachment to Foster. I suppose we could replace Foster with Tinsley. Though if we did this I think MIN should retain the UTH pick as Tinsley is less valuable in my mind.

Devilzsidewalk · Post #11 » by **Devilzsidewalk** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 5:35 pm

both of those trades are no brainers if you can get them done

deeney0 · Post #12 » by **deeney0** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 5:59 pm

Wolves Trade: Miller/Smith
Wolves Recieve: Hinrich/Noah

Sign Allen Iverson to MLE, one year longer than anyone else will offer

I think I'd draft Stephen Curry in this scenario, though I don't like him all that much.

Jefferson/Love/Brewer/Iverson/Hinrich, with Foye, Curry, Gomes, and Noah off the bench.

Krapinsky · Post #13 » by **Krapinsky** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 6:11 pm

Devilzsidewalk wrote:both of those trades are no brainers if you can get them done

I might be undervaluing Noah to some degree, which would effect the picks being exchanged. But the principal seems like fair value to me.

Winter Wonder · Post #14 » by **Winter Wonder** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 6:14 pm

Dr.Krapinsky wrote:Out: Cardinal/Gomes/Foye/Telfair
In: Vince Carter/CDR

Highly doubt NJN would part with VC for that price. I think they would riot in the streets if CDR was includeded as well for that deal.

Foye · Post #15 » by **Foye** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 6:19 pm

Dr.Krapinsky wrote:
Devilzsidewalk wrote:both of those trades are no brainers if you can get them done

I might be undervaluing Noah to some degree, which would effect the picks being exchanged. But the principal seems like fair value to me.

I'm sick of the idea of bringing Noah in.

I pray this guy will never play for the wolves.

Devilzsidewalk · Post #16 » by **Devilzsidewalk** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 6:32 pm

Foye wrote:
Dr.Krapinsky wrote:
Devilzsidewalk wrote:both of those trades are no brainers if you can get them done

I might be undervaluing Noah to some degree, which would effect the picks being exchanged. But the principal seems like fair value to me.

I'm sick of the idea of bringing Noah in.

I pray this guy will never play for the wolves.

I think he's cool, I want to walk around with him and get arrested for marijuana and open container violations

skorff26 · Post #17 » by **skorff26** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 7:30 pm

We could definitely move some of our young guys and expirings for players that would help us get to the playoffs; we could probably also move Love in a deal, move some of younger players, and get enough back to get to the 2nd round of the playoffs; but is it worth mortgaging some of our future for the present, I don't think so.

Devilzsidewalk · Post #18 » by **Devilzsidewalk** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 7:39 pm

skorff26 wrote: we could probably also move Love in a deal

Whoa, easy there bud

AQuintus · Post #19 » by **AQuintus** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 8:06 pm

1. Get a top 2 pick and draft Ricky Rubio.
2. Trade Miami's pick (BJ Mullins) and Foye for New York's pick (Demar DeRozan).
3. Trade Boston's pick and remove the protection on our 2010 pick for DeAndre Jordan.
4. Force feed Love HGH so he grows into a legit center.

Go into next season with this line-up:

C - Love(28),Jordan(20)
PF- Jefferson(36),Smith(12)
SF- Brewer(20),Gomes(23),Miller(5)
SG- Miller(28),DeRozan(20)
PG- Rubio(33),Telfair(15)

C - K.Love,D.Jordan,M.Sene(I)
PF- A.Jefferson,C.Smith,M.Madsen(I)
SF- C.Brewer,R.Gomes,B.Cardinal(I)
SG- M.Miller,D.DeRozan,R.Carney
PG- R.Rubio,S.Telfair,B.Brown

I don't know if that would be a playoff team next year, but I think that if Rubio is as NBA ready as I think he is and if Jefferson and Brewer can get healthy early, it could be.

Krapinsky · Post #20 » by **Krapinsky** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 8:14 pm

AQuintus wrote:1. Get a top 2 pick and draft Ricky Rubio.
2. Trade Miami's pick (BJ Mullins) and Foye for New York's pick (Demar DeRozan).
3. Trade Boston's pick and remove the protection on our 2010 pick for DeAndre Jordan.
4. Force feed Love HGH so he grows into a legit center.

Go into next season with this line-up:

C - Love(28),Jordan(20)
PF- Jefferson(36),Smith(12)
SF- Brewer(20),Gomes(23),Miller(5)
SG- Miller(28),DeRozan(20)
PG- Rubio(33),Telfair(15)

C - K.Love,D.Jordan,M.Sene(I)
PF- A.Jefferson,C.Smith,M.Madsen(I)
SF- C.Brewer,R.Gomes,B.Cardinal(I)
SG- M.Miller,D.DeRozan,R.Carney
PG- R.Rubio,S.Telfair,B.Brown

I don't know if that would be a playoff team next year, but I think that if Rubio is as NBA ready as I think he is and if Jefferson and Brewer can get healthy early, it could be.

Nope. I just checked and it's not.

I like your thinking for the long term though. Could probably use one more shooter until either Brewer or Derozan develops.