Carney starting next year?

PerkinsFor3 · Post #1 » by **PerkinsFor3** » Wed Apr 8, 2009 9:28 pm

Could Carney be starting at sf next year? I'm not a believer in Brewer, and who knows how he comes back. Not like he was that good when he was healthy anyway. Still: Mike Miller shouldn't be on the Wwolves next year. Making room for either Carney or Brewer.

I'm curious to know what you see as the best plan for next year? Ride with Miller, Throw Brewer back in there or give Carney an extended look?

Also, anybody care to break down these three players and their roles on the Wolves next year for me?

Cheers!

john2jer · Post #2 » by **john2jer** » Wed Apr 8, 2009 9:29 pm

Gomes

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Wait, Cardinal

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PerkinsFor3 · Post #3 » by **PerkinsFor3** » Wed Apr 8, 2009 9:54 pm

What?

I see Gomes as the perfect back up sf/pf...

funkatron101 · Post #4 » by **funkatron101** » Wed Apr 8, 2009 10:08 pm

He might not even be on the team next year. I would like to see him back. You give him minutes and more than five shots, and he will likely produce.

We have too many "could fit" guys. Something's gotta give. If we draft or trade for a quality PG, then there is a big log jam in the SG/SF area.

SG: Foye, Brewer, Carney, Miller
SF: Gomes, Brewer, Carney, Miller

We need some great starters who earn their minutes. Not a bunch of good players constantly swapping minutes. I think it is too difficult getting consistency when you play 10 minutes one night, then 30 the next.

Post #5 » by **Calinks** » Wed Apr 8, 2009 10:20 pm

Although I have some faith in him, I don't think Brewer is guaranteed anything. Alot of people have him penciled in as the starting 2 or 3 but I don't see it at this time. Gomes has a good chance to start. Miller will probably be here. Depending on how players look at training camp Foye may even find himself on the bench.

PeeDee · Post #6 » by **PeeDee** » Wed Apr 8, 2009 10:27 pm

Calinks3 wrote:Foye may even find himself on the bench.

Of another team.

Post #7 » by **Basti** » Wed Apr 8, 2009 10:37 pm

I doubt Carney is talented enough to be a starter. yes he can shoot, defend decently and run/jump but he's got little handles, doesn't rebound that much IIRC and has no mid range game to begin with. he's a nice roleplayer though.

casey · Post #8 » by **casey** » Wed Apr 8, 2009 11:55 pm

On some Euro team you mean?

GeorgiaWolf · Post #9 » by **GeorgiaWolf** » Thu Apr 9, 2009 12:04 am

If Carney(this yrs Kirk Snyder) is starting next year it better be due to injury late in the season signed to a 10 day contract... I am not against resigning Carney he is an ok player but on a decent team he is on the pine most of the time.

Post #10 » by **revprodeji** » Thu Apr 9, 2009 12:09 am

I think he has hit his ceiling as an inconsistent bench player. He is a track runner playing basketball. The low BBIQ and feel for the game will always limit him. Rather take a shot on a rookie or give the minute to Brewer.

funkatron101 · Post #11 » by **funkatron101** » Thu Apr 9, 2009 12:18 am

This might sound crazy, but I want to see a comparison of Carney vs Foye at the SG spot. Strengths and weaknesses of each guy. Who is the better defender? Who is more consistent when given minutes?

4ho5ive · Post #12 » by **4ho5ive** » Thu Apr 9, 2009 1:35 am

I think with Carney you know what you have. He's a spark off the bench who is big enough and hustles enough to play good D, good from outside and gives you some exciting dunks.

Foye is a much better PLAYER. Not the better athlete however

funkatron101 · Post #13 » by **funkatron101** » Thu Apr 9, 2009 2:01 am

Carney per 48 mins: March
FG%: 43.307
3PT%: .392
FT%: 75.000
STL:1.81
BLK: 1.25
TO: 1.1
PF: 3.3
REB-OFF: 1.4
REB-DEF: 4.3
REB-TOT: 5.7
AST: 1.0
PTS: 20.6

Foye per 48 mins: March
FG%: 37.333
3PT% .382
FT% 84.783
STL: 0.85
BLK: 0.61
TO: 2.5
PF: 4.1
REB-OFF: 0.8
REB-DEF: 2.5
REB-TOT: 3.4
AST: 4.8
PTS: 20.8

Not a definitive indicator by any means, but interesting to look at.

4ho5ive · Post #14 » by **4ho5ive** » Thu Apr 9, 2009 2:26 am

Compare their January's and get back to me

Post #15 » by **TheFranchise21** » Thu Apr 9, 2009 2:45 am

4ho5ive wrote:Compare their January's and get back to me

Foye's best month in his entire career and he hasn't come close to it before or since then.

funkatron101 · Post #16 » by **funkatron101** » Thu Apr 9, 2009 2:46 am

4ho5ive wrote:Compare their January's and get back to me

Carney
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/s ... 144&avg=48

Foye
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/s ... 135&avg=48

It's just easier this way.

Looking at the year, Foye has a much better AST/TO ratio, better FT%. Carney averages more blocks. The rest seem pretty close.

deeney0 · Post #17 » by **deeney0** » Thu Apr 9, 2009 2:49 am

Carney is not a starter on a good team in the NBA. So yes, it's possible he starts on the Wolves next year, but you should be hoping against it.

southern wolf · Post #18 » by **southern wolf** » Thu Apr 9, 2009 2:53 am

I'll bet someone out of the SG/SF group (Miller, Gomes, Foye, Brewer, Carney) will be involved in a bad draft night trade. Or maybe I'm just being to cynical.

4ho5ive · Post #19 » by **4ho5ive** » Thu Apr 9, 2009 3:04 am

TheFranchise21 wrote:
4ho5ive wrote:Compare their January's and get back to me

Foye's best month in his entire career and he hasn't come close to it before or since then.

Kinda like Carney's month of March being likely his best compared to Foye who *allegedly* played injured for a portion of March, yea thats much more of a fair comparison.

I know Carney is the new flavor around here, but cmon.

Post #20 » by **revprodeji** » Thu Apr 9, 2009 3:12 am

Carney is likely gone. Get over him.

One of Gomes/Foye/Miller/Brewer will also be gone likely. if our front office is wise there are going to be some moves this summer.