John Wall this Year?

jpatrick · Post #1 » by **jpatrick** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:14 pm

This is from Ford's chat:

Mike, FL: Is John Wall the No. 1 pick in 2010 Draft. He was awesome at the Hoop Summit game.

Chad Ford: (2:12 PM ET ) He was awesome and he'll compete with Ed Davis and a few other freshmen for that. However, there is some buzz that Wall believes he might be eligible for THIS year's draft. I've been doing some digging and will be filing a story later today. The short rub is this: Wall is a 5th year senior and depending on how you read the collective bargaining agreement, 5th year seniors are eligible for the draft as long as the turn 19 in the calander year (Wall does). The league is taking a wait and see approach. If he declares, they'll research and make a ruling. If he does declare and is ruled eligible (two big ifs) he's a Top 5 pick in this draft. Maybe Top 3.

After watching him in the Hoops Summit game, I'm a believer. He'd be in my top three after only Griffin and Rubio.

Post #2 » by **Worm Guts** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:17 pm

That would make the #2 pick incredibly interesting. I think Griffin would still be #1, but it's debatable who you take between Wall and Rubio.

deeney0 · Post #3 » by **deeney0** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:24 pm

That would kick ass.

theGreatRC · Post #4 » by **theGreatRC** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:25 pm

I'm liking this alot if this is true.

Post #5 » by **Worm Guts** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:30 pm

deeney0 wrote:That would kick ass.

Probably, unless we stay at the 6th pick this year and end up 1 pick outside the elite players next year.

deeney0 · Post #6 » by **deeney0** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:41 pm

Yeah, it may hurt next year, but I'll take the bird in the hand. Wall this year pushes Harden farther down, too. I think it would increase the Wolves chances of getting one of Rubio/Wall/Harden substantially. It cascades, too, might have a positive effect on the quality of guard available at #18.

Post #7 » by **Worm Guts** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:42 pm

I agree, most likely it's a good thing.

john2jer · Post #8 » by **john2jer** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:52 pm

We're going to the Finals next year anyways, so who cares. Stack the deck this year. Force Ed Davis, Greg Monroe, Jerome Jordan, Jrue Holiday, Evan Turner, Cole Aldrich, Kyle Singler, AFA, Willie Warren, and John Wall to declare. Means our lottery pick is worth more, and maybe we'll get legit talent at #18 and #28.

Krapinsky · Post #9 » by **Krapinsky** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:49 pm

This would be amazing. At # 6 what would be our odds of landing one of the top 3 picks? 20%? I can't be bothered to look right now.

cpfsf · Post #10 » by **cpfsf** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:07 pm

.215 chance of getting a pick 1-3. Otherwise we may have to trade up (although we might have to give up a lot). Still it would upgrade the entire draft class to a more respectable level. I am glad Griffin decided to stay the extra year (so we could have a shot at drafting him now) and if we are lucky, we can have a shot at drafting another talented player. But don't get your hopes up, I agree with Chad Ford that he is a top 3 talent (or 5th at worst case scenario). With a draft class as weak as this,teams will definitely consider taking a chance on him.

Good find, best news I heard all day

Xand1 · Post #11 » by **Xand1** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:07 pm

Dr.Krapinsky wrote:This would be amazing. At # 6 what would be our odds of landing one of the top 3 picks? 20%? I can't be bothered to look right now.

21.5%

This must happen. I've been getting all depressed about all the prospects pulling out.. imagine if an A++++ prospect just up and entered out of nowhere.

Post #12 » by **revprodeji** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:12 pm

Holy crap.

Wall is right up there with Rubio and Rose as far as a prospect. If he comes out it would be big.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4CbQGBbUOw

LOBO 7 · Post #13 » by **LOBO 7** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:22 pm

wow wow wow.

kinda crappy quality, but.....

wow wow:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIm47B6HW74

cpfsf · Post #14 » by **cpfsf** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:23 pm

John Wall should declare for the draft (just try dude). He is pretty much guaranteed to be a top pick, so why risk anything else?

Post #15 » by **revprodeji** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:24 pm

If he does it w/o an agent there is no problem. He cannot be harmed in anyway.

makes you wonder why OJ did not do it? I believe he was older for his class too.

LOBO 7 · Post #16 » by **LOBO 7** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:34 pm

LOBO 7 wrote:wow wow wow.

kinda crappy quality, but.....

wow wow:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIm47B6HW74

At the hoop summit they listed him at 6'1", 185, not the 6'3" or 6'4" listed on DX, but I could care less. He plays like he's 6'6". Wow, between him and Rubio I can't decide who I'm more excited about. Whether or not we are lucky enough to get either of them, as a basketball fan these are 2 of the most exciting young prospects I've seen in a while.

My nickname for John Wall: Johnny Wow

Post #17 » by **revprodeji** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:40 pm

I think I still like RUbio more, but Wall adds more value and the chance at us getting a top-notch pg. Which is the key concern.

cpfsf · Post #18 » by **cpfsf** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:40 pm

LOBO 7 wrote:
LOBO 7 wrote:wow wow wow.

kinda crappy quality, but.....

wow wow:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIm47B6HW74

At the hoop summit they listed him at 6'1", 185, not the 6'3" or 6'4" listed on DX, but I could care less. He plays like he's 6'6". Wow, between him and Rubio I can't decide who I'm more excited about. Whether or not we are lucky enough to get either of them, as a basketball fan these are 2 of the most exciting young prospects I've seen in a while.

My nickname for John Wall: Johnny Wow

I would call him ShamWall

john2jer · Post #19 » by **john2jer** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:43 pm

It's not just an age thing.

From what I understand of it, you have to be one year removed from your natural graduating class. Which is the case of John Wall because he's a 5th year senior. Same deal with Bill Walker, but Walker was denied.

OJ Mayo was just old for his grade because his parents put him into school late to start with. John Wall is just a kid who couldn't graduate on time.

Wall becomes a top 3 pick if he gets in this draft.

1. Kings - Griffin
2. Clippers - Rubio
3. Wizards - Wall
4. Thunder - Thabeet
5. Grizzlies - Hill
6. Wolves - Evans/Harden???

Really it only helps us if someone takes a surprise in front of us, or if we get into the top 3. We need Greg Monroe and Ed Davis to declare.

Krapinsky · Post #20 » by **Krapinsky** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:05 pm

john2jer wrote:It's not just an age thing.

From what I understand of it, you have to be one year removed from your natural graduating class. Which is the case of John Wall because he's a 5th year senior. Same deal with Bill Walker, but Walker was denied.

OJ Mayo was just old for his grade because his parents put him into school late to start with. John Wall is just a kid who couldn't graduate on time.

Wall becomes a top 3 pick if he gets in this draft.

1. Kings - Griffin
2. Clippers - Rubio
3. Wizards - Wall
4. Thunder - Thabeet
5. Grizzlies - Hill
6. Wolves - Evans/Harden???

Really it only helps us if someone takes a surprise in front of us, or if we get into the top 3. We need Greg Monroe and Ed Davis to declare.

What a travesty it woul dbe if Rubio had to play for Dunleavy.

The hardest team to peg might be the Thunder. Who knows which way Presti might go with his "outside the box thnking."