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Your ideal draft + rotation 

Post#1 » by Sebzor » Fri May 22, 2009 4:32 pm

The Twolves have the following picks: 6-18-28-45-47
Who would you draft? If no trades happen to this team?

Draft:
6: E. Clark (SF)
18: J. Teague (PG)
28: D. Collison (PG)
45: C. Johnson (PF)
47: G. Siler (C)

Rotation:
PG: Telfair-Teague-Collison
SG: Foye-Miller
SF: Clark-Brewer-Cardinal
PF: Love-Smith-Madsen
C: Jefferson-Johnson-Siler
1st unit: Telfair-Foye-Clark-Love-Jefferson
2nd unit: Teague-Miller-Brewer-Smith-Jefferson
3rd unit: Collison-Foye-Brewer-Love-Johnson
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Post#2 » by john2jer » Fri May 22, 2009 5:48 pm

I think the draft you posted would be worst case scenario and I'd cry.

My hope would be for the Wolves to trade for Washington's pick. I'll show both scenarios...

With trade

Wolves receive: #5, Etan Thomas, and DeShawn Stevenson
Bullets receive: Mike Miller and Utah's 2010 1st

Draft
#5 - James Harden
#6 - Tyreke Evans
#18 - BJ Mullens
#28 - Omri Casspi
#45 - Henk Norel
#47 - Milenko Tepic

Stash Casspi, Norel, and Tepic over-seas for a year. With the trade and the Euro-stash, we're at 15 players on the roster, while still having Cardinal, Thomas, Madsen, Smith, and Brown's expiring contracts, plus Ryan Gomes's unguaranteed deal that all could be moved for more future assets such as picks, or combined to bring in a great player on a bigger contract from a team that's looking to clear cap room.

Roster when healthy and assuming no further trades:
C - Jefferson/Mullens/Thomas
PF - Love/Smith/Madsen
SF - Gomes/Brewer/Cardinal
SG - Harden/Foye/Stevenson
PG - Evans/Telfair/Brown

We're in a position, especially with Jefferson's injury, that we can afford to start a rookie backcourt and let them grow together. Thomas and Mullens would share minutes, but the goal would be to turn Mullens into an NBA ready player ASAP. Stevenson wouldn't get much for playing time, and hopefully would be traded away with our expirings.

My rotations would basically be:
Frontcourt - Jefferson/Love/Mullens with spot minutes by Craig Smith
SF - Gomes/Brewer
Backcourt - Evans/Harden/Foye with spot minutes by Telfair

No trade

Draft
#6 - Tyreke Evans
#18 - BJ Mullens
#28 - Omri Casspi
#45 - Henk Norel
#47 - Milenko Tepic

Roster when healthy and assuming no further trades:
C - Jefferson/Mullens
PF - Love/Smith/Madsen
SF - Gomes/Brewer/Cardinal
SG - Foye/Miller
PG - Evans/Telfair/Brown

I don't think there's anyway we can possibly have Telfair as our starting point guard any more. Evans might not be a prototypical point guard, but I think his talents meshed with Foye(or Harden), plus Miller allows us to be fine running the offense.
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Re: Your ideal draft + rotation 

Post#3 » by DirtyDawgs21 » Fri May 22, 2009 6:45 pm

#6 Harden or Evans

package #18 & 28 and try to move up to get Jonny Flynn

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Re: Your ideal draft + rotation 

Post#4 » by Devilzsidewalk » Fri May 22, 2009 7:16 pm

6 Harden
18 Lawson
28 James
2nd round: Taj Gibson and Xmas

that draft basically makes us invincible. Basically.
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Re: Your ideal draft + rotation 

Post#5 » by john2jer » Fri May 22, 2009 7:24 pm

What happened to Evans! DSW? NO!!!!!
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Re: Your ideal draft + rotation 

Post#6 » by Howler21 » Fri May 22, 2009 7:28 pm

#6 Derozan
#18Holiday
#28 Ellington
#45 Heytvelt
#47 Lull
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Re: Your ideal draft + rotation 

Post#7 » by PeeDee » Fri May 22, 2009 7:37 pm

If any of you listened to the press conference, maybe you can confirm or deny what I took from it. I get the feeling Kahn isn't about to bring on a boat load of rookies. Which means you can basically count out trading for the Wash pick.

He said he's going to be looking to bring in stars because the only way teams get better is by having 1 or 2 guys the whole team can rally behind. (Not Al?)

J2J, I'd love to see your scenario go down. But I Kahn't really see it happening. See what I did there? Man, I'm funny.
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Re: Your ideal draft + rotation 

Post#8 » by invno1 » Fri May 22, 2009 7:55 pm

To me, It's seems like 1 more year before bringing in super stars. do the scout work well, next year Timberwolves will know what they need and have the cap to get it...plus have some form of foundation in place. but who knows they could have any idea.
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Post#9 » by john2jer » Fri May 22, 2009 8:14 pm

PeeDee, if your cliff notes of his press conference are acurate, it sounds to me like he's going to waste our expirings and cap space on aging veterans and put us in cap hell for the rest of our existence. SWEET!
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Post#10 » by PeeDee » Fri May 22, 2009 8:24 pm

Keep in mind I was trying to listen to it during work and people kept interupting me with, get this, work! Buncha jerkbags.
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Re: Your ideal draft + rotation 

Post#11 » by invno1 » Fri May 22, 2009 8:25 pm

This cat sounds cool to me...listening to press conf. now
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Re: Your ideal draft + rotation 

Post#12 » by john2jer » Fri May 22, 2009 8:30 pm

The beauty of my Washington scenario, is that even though we bring in Stevenson, partnering him up with expirings gives us room to bring in another star, or we just let them all expire and we still have a bit of cap room to add in a good free agent. Doesn't take too much cap space to make it happen.
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Re: Your ideal draft + rotation 

Post#13 » by Esohny » Fri May 22, 2009 8:50 pm

6: Harden
18: Holliday
28: Casspi
45: Milenko Tepic
47: Milan Macvan

Assuming the original premise of best case with no trades. However, I don't know if Holliday would be there at 18, and have 3 options I like better:

1) The wolves trade for the 5 so they could have a Harden/Evans or DeRozan/Evans for their first 2 picks (I like this one)
2) They keep 6 and 18 like I mentioned and trade up from 28 to grab BJ Mullens
3) They take Harden/DeRozan at 6, then picks/expirings/foye/smith (not Jefferson, Love, and maybe Brewer) for Marvin Williams and Hinrich (or Tony Parker if Bill Simmons isn't dreaming about his trade ideas: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/st ... ortCat=nba )
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Re: Your ideal draft + rotation 

Post#14 » by john2jer » Fri May 22, 2009 8:55 pm

PeeDee wrote:Keep in mind I was trying to listen to it during work and people kept interupting me with, get this, work! Buncha jerkbags.


I'm listening to it now. I have a half hour left of work. If anyone interupts me with "work", I'm gonna be P.O.ed!

Let's hope Kahn can do some outside the box thinking.
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Re: Your ideal draft + rotation 

Post#15 » by AQuintus » Fri May 22, 2009 9:13 pm

6) DeMar DeRozan
18) Jrue Holiday
28) Trade to Clippers (removing protection on next years pick) for DeAndre Jordan

Rotation:

C - Love(28),Jordan(20)
PF- Jefferson(36),Gomes(12)
SF- Brewer(20),Miller(20),Gomes(8)
SG- Foye(15),DeRozan(20),Miller(13)
PG- Holiday(28),Foye(20)

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I need to learn to read. With no trades, I would go back in time and draft Jordan and then sell the 28th pick this year for cash.
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Re: Your ideal draft + rotation 

Post#16 » by revprodeji » Fri May 22, 2009 9:21 pm

We will have numerous trade options, so the thread is pointless.

Removing next years pick for Jordan is foolish. Considering next year is a very strong draft and without Al we likely will be looking at a top-5 pick.
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Re: Your ideal draft + rotation 

Post#17 » by AQuintus » Fri May 22, 2009 9:24 pm

I would make that trade based on the assumption that Jefferson will be healthy early in the year, the rookies would help the team greatly, and that we would be picking in the 9 - 12 range. In other words, I would be making the gamble that we would be losing the pick anyway, so why not try to get Jordan for almost nothing?
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Re: Your ideal draft + rotation 

Post#18 » by Steve_Holiday » Fri May 22, 2009 9:34 pm

With players 3-8/9/10ish all having a similar perceived value, I would guess a number of trades and surprise picks will happen in this draft. The only thing that is fairly certain is that Griffin will be selected #1 and Ricky Rubio and Hasheem Thabeet will be gone before the Wolves pick (if they stay at 6).

If we stay at 6 and he is available, I like Harden (with Derozan and Jennings as interesting possibilities). If we are able to move up, I like Rubio. If we move down, I like Curry. With 18, the team should take one of the many decent point guards. Sell or package 28. Draft any human living in Europe with the 2nd round picks (doesn't matter) with the assumption that we will never hear their names again.

I'm not so sure I like the idea of doubling down in this draft by picking up 5.
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Re: Your ideal draft + rotation 

Post#19 » by john2jer » Fri May 22, 2009 9:44 pm

How could you not like moving Miller, who won't be here after next year, for a shot at another young stud?
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Post#20 » by jpatrick » Fri May 22, 2009 10:52 pm

I'd be shocked if Holiday was there at 18 unless he blows in his workouts. Ford has him at 8 and JG from Draft Express said in his blog that he's 6-10 now and both say there is an outside chance he'll go 4 to Sacramento.

I'd love to get Harden or Derozan at 6 and then bundle the other two picks to move up and get Holiday around 10. If the Holiday move isn't possible and he's gone, I'd like Mullen or Maynor at 18.

The caveat is of course that we have no shot at Rubio. I'd easily trade all three picks to Memphis or OKC if it meant sending the Spaniard here (and he was willing to come here of course). I woudn't even mind waiting a year for him although that's not going to be good for next year's ticket sales.

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