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Mike Miller - #4 SG in WoW

Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 7:13 pm
by shrink
http://dberri.wordpress.com/2009/05/14/ ... nba-teams/

SG OV Player Team GP GS MIN WP WP/48
1 4 Dwyane Wade Miami 79 79 3,048 21.0 0.331

2 12 Brandon Roy Portland 78 78 2,903 14.5 0.240

3 14 Kobe Bryant LA Lakers 82 82 2,960 13.9 0.226

4 17 Mike Miller Minnesota 73 47 2,356 13.2 0.270


Miller's rebounding really helps, and he does a lot of things besides scoring that help a team win.

I liked the line about :
"For the benefit of the many posters who consider this site homework-optional, I submit the following list of generic positions that NEED NOT EVER BE ELABORATED UPON EVEN ONE MORE TIME:"

E. My friend/ brother-in-law’s boss/ opinionated alter-ego hasn’t read or studied your work, but I told him the results say Mike Miller is way better the Richard Jefferson OR Rip Hamilton, and he says you’re clearly deluded


Here's info on the Wins Produced stat (and the more easily calculated "Win Scores")

Determine the relative value of each statistic. Our research indicates that the relative value of a point, rebound, steal, turnover, and field goal attempt – in absolute terms – is equal. Assists, blocked shots, free throw attempts, and personal fouls – again in absolute terms – are each worth less than a point, a rebound, etc… To keep it simple, one can argue that each of these latter stats is worth ½ a point, rebound, etc… Now the ½ value is not exact, but using ½ keeps it simple and we find one gains very little using the exact relative value. In other words, player rankings do not change very much when you use the exact values.

So given this argument, one can measure performance with this simple calculation, which we call Win Score.

Points + Rebounds + Steals + ½Assists + ½Blocked Shots – Field Goal Attempts – Turnovers – ½Free Throw Attempts – ½Personal Fouls


Anyway, I was suspicious of the fact that a RB is worth a point, but it means an additional possession, so that seems accurate. "Wins Produced" is more complex. The startling thing is that when you add up all the players on a team, you almost always come within a few games of having their exact team's record. Why play those games anymore?

Re: Mike Miller - #4 SG in WoW

Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 7:37 pm
by john2jer
Mike Miller plays World of Warcraft?

Re: Mike Miller - #4 SG in WoW

Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 8:49 pm
by deeney0
john2jer wrote:Mike Miller plays World of Warcraft?



Can you think of a better reason why he obviously doesn't care
About his appearence?

Re: Mike Miller - #4 SG in WoW

Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 9:25 pm
by Mayoistooslow
hes probably got a level 80 druid.

Re: Mike Miller - #4 SG in WoW

Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 10:51 pm
by Howler21
deeney0 wrote:
john2jer wrote:Mike Miller plays World of Warcraft?



Can you think of a better reason why he obviously doesn't care
About his appearence?


Please,the man sets trends. Seen the awesome blonde hair hes rocking? :lol:

Re: Mike Miller - #4 SG in WoW

Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 11:07 pm
by revprodeji
part of this is clearly the over value wow puts on rebounding. but millers stats would be ok if he was the 4th option pg. but that is not what he was brought in for. he is an incredibly frustrating player to me.

Re: Mike Miller - #4 SG in WoW

Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 5:42 am
by AQuintus
This definitely goes to show how useless a stat Wages of Wins is.

Re: Mike Miller - #4 SG in WoW

Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 5:46 am
by Tekkenlaw
Mike Miller and #18 for Kobe Bryant. Do the salaries work?

Re: Mike Miller - #4 SG in WoW

Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 5:52 am
by Esohny
We might need them to throw in Pau Gasol and a future 1st.

Re: Mike Miller - #4 SG in WoW

Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 10:00 pm
by GopherIt!
john2jer wrote:Mike Miller plays World of Warcraft?


deeney0 wrote:Can you think of a better reason why he obviously doesn't care
About his appearence?


Somebody needs to make a Mike Miller character for WoW. I'd cross over into nerdom for that.


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