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4 part pick adjustment swaps

Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 7:26 pm
by the_bruce
Part 1 NJ-MN:
#18
#45
C.Smith
for
#11 (NJ)
Swat

Part 2 SAc-MN:
4 and 23
for
6 and 11

Part 3 WAS-MN:
WAS gets: Mike Miller, Bobby Brown. Utah 1st
WAS gives: Etan Thomas, DeShawn Stevenson, #5

Part 4 LAC-MN:
MEM in #4, #5, #23
MEM out #2

New draft order:
LAC
MN
OKC
MEM
MEM
SAC

GSW
NYK
TOR
MIL
SAC

Personally I'd rather have 5,6,11 than 2.

Re: 4 part pick adjustment swaps

Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 7:30 pm
by AQuintus
The Wolves are really overpaying in deals 2 and 4.

Re: 4 part pick adjustment swaps

Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 7:32 pm
by the_bruce
bruceallen61 wrote:New draft order:
LAC
MN
OKC
MEM
MEM
SAC

GSW
NYK
TOR
MIL
SAC


LAC - Griffin
MN - Rubio
OKC - Thabeet or Harden
MEM - Thabeet or Harden
MEM - Hill
SAC - Jennings or Evans
GSW Derozan
NYK Curry
TOR Henderson?
MIL Clark?
SAC Holiday

Re: 4 part pick adjustment swaps

Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 7:37 pm
by the_bruce
AQuintus wrote:The Wolves are really overpaying in deals 2 and 4.


They have to overpay in those deals. Those are the parts where MN is providing value to other teams. Otherwise theres no point in trading down for MEM & SAC. In terms of actual cost to MN in player talent it is trivial.

Re: 4 part pick adjustment swaps

Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 7:38 pm
by shrink
I think all those deals are ones the other team would have difficulty declining.

For #1, I'd demand Boone and not the troubled SWAT.

For #2, a SAC fan suggested 4 + 23 + 31 for 6 + 18 + 28.

Now I understand that for SAC, the guy they want at 4 is probably at 6 too, and he values the 18 because he feels its at the tail end of the clump of OK prospects (I feel that way too). But I'd jump on this in a second. I think #31 > #28.

For #3, it seems like we can make a competitive offer around Miller and 2009 cap space to get the #5, since they want to sell it. I've made some others, and I'd prefer to not take back Deshawn Stevenson's second year and eat the 2010 raw cap space, but it'd be hard to say no too.

For #4, I think that Rubio for #4 and #5 would probably be MEM's best offer. tossing in the #23 is superfluous.

However, would I trade all those pieces to get Rubio? Probably. We need star-level talent.

(ps - if you need another piece, I think NOH's #21 could be easily bought for $3 mil and our two 2nds.)

Re: 4 part pick adjustment swaps

Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 9:17 pm
by GopherIt!
Has NJ indicated a willingness to trade down? I would use that pick to target Gerald Henderson or Terrence Williams though. After the deal goes through I would try to do back flips after hanging up the phone and fracture multiple bones in my body and end up in the hospital AND I WOULD LIKE IT.


with picks 5, 6 & 11 my thinking would be to target the following chaps:

5: Harden?, Evans?, Holliday, DeRozan
6: Harden?, Evans?, Holliday, DeRozan, Williams, Henderson
11: Williams, Henderson, Maynor, Lawson

Re: 4 part pick adjustment swaps

Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 10:01 pm
by the_bruce
shrink wrote:For #1, I'd demand Boone and not the troubled SWAT.


SWAT is the better fit for MN regardless of his troubles.

shrink wrote:For #2, a SAC fan suggested 4 + 23 + 31 for 6 + 18 + 28.

Now I understand that for SAC, the guy they want at 4 is probably at 6 too, and he values the 18 because he feels its at the tail end of the clump of OK prospects (I feel that way too). But I'd jump on this in a second. I think #31 > #28.

For SAC it's hard to say. They could in theory deal directly with MEM for an easy swap, but here they get more value to fill out their roster.

shrink wrote:For #3, it seems like we can make a competitive offer around Miller and 2009 cap space to get the #5, since they want to sell it. I've made some others, and I'd prefer to not take back Deshawn Stevenson's second year and eat the 2010 raw cap space, but it'd be hard to say no too.

Perhaps avoiding stevenson would be appealing, but taken as a whole trade it isn't that damaging.

shrink wrote:For #4, I think that Rubio for #4 and #5 would probably be MEM's best offer. tossing in the #23 is superfluous.

You are probably correct on this.

I for one would prefer 5,6, 11.

#5 Evans
#6 Derozan
#11 Lawson

Re: 4 part pick adjustment swaps

Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 2:00 pm
by john2jer
I hang up at "Hello".

Way too much to pay to get the Kings pick, and at this point no interest in Rubio.

Re: 4 part pick adjustment swaps

Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 7:31 pm
by the_bruce
Trade 1:
NJ IN: #18, #28, C.Smith
NJ OUT: #11, SWAT

MN IN: SWAT
MN OUT: Smith, #18, #28

Trade 2:
WAS IN: Miller, Brown, Utah 1st
WAS OUT: Thomas, Stevenson, #5

MN IN: Thomas, Stevenson, #5
MN OUT: Miller, Brown, Utah 1st

Trade 3:
POR IN: Love + 6
POR OUT: Oden

MN IN: Oden
MN Out: Love, 6


Oden\Swat\Thomas
Jefferson
Gomes\Brewer\Clark(#11)
Derozan or Harden or Evans(#5)\Stevenson
Lawson(#11) or Curry(#5)\Foye

Discuss!