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Draft prospect question
Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 9:34 pm
by revprodeji
player A.) 6' 8.5" 6' 10" 248 6' 11.25" 8' 9"
Player B.) 6' 7.75" 6' 9.5" 255 6' 11.25" 8' 10"
Which player is the perfect NBA pf specimen and who is too small?
Re: Draft prospect question
Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 9:44 pm
by AQuintus
They're both too small, but I'd rather have A (Griffin) over B (Beasley) based on intangibles and the way that they both play.
Re: Draft prospect question
Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 9:55 pm
by big3_8_19_21
Those measurements are damn near identical. If one's too small, the other is too. But I agree with AQ, I take Griffin.
Re: Draft prospect question
Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 10:06 pm
by revprodeji
Griffin is A
Love is B
Re: Draft prospect question
Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 10:08 pm
by prefuse73
B) is not Beasley... it looks to be our very own Kevin Love. Those are hella big insoles he has. Thats why he should be listed at 6'9.
Only time will tell. 6'9 is fine for a power forward its. KLove has a larger skill set, but what Griffin does well...he does really well.
Re: Draft prospect question
Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 10:25 pm
by revprodeji
wingspan and reach have very little to do with insoles.
Just interesting Griffin is considered this prototype PF physical monster and love is an undersized bust.
Re: Draft prospect question
Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 10:29 pm
by Vega06
Very interesting.
If Love stays another year in college where does he get picked in the draft this year?
Re: Draft prospect question
Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 10:30 pm
by AQuintus
prefuse73 wrote:B) is not Beasley... it looks to be our very own Kevin Love. Those are hella big insoles he has. Thats why he should be listed at 6'9.
You're right. Beasley actually has a better wingspan than I remember (7' 0.25" & 8' 11"), but still not great.
As for the question, I would still rather have Griffin, because he's a much better athlete and is more aggressive.
Re: Draft prospect question
Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 10:32 pm
by big3_8_19_21
Well...I guess my post still makes sense since I didn't explicitly name Beasley...and I'm sticking to it. But yeah still basically identical numbers and yeah, I still take Griffin.
Re: Draft prospect question
Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 10:37 pm
by john2jer
Player A either has a longer neck, or a bigger head.
Re: Draft prospect question
Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 10:50 pm
by C.lupus
I hate players with big heads. I'd take player B.
Re: Draft prospect question
Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 11:25 pm
by mandurugo
revprodeji wrote:wingspan and reach have very little to do with insoles.
Just interesting Griffin is considered this prototype PF physical monster and love is an undersized bust.
The difference is that Griffin is an incredible athlete for his size while Love is not (for an NBA power forward that is). For instance, Griffin can actually run while Love can barely muster up a good lumber.
Re: Draft prospect question
Posted: Mon Jun 1, 2009 3:43 am
by revprodeji
Love might not be a kg like athlete, but he can run up and down the floor more than fine.
Re: Draft prospect question
Posted: Mon Jun 1, 2009 3:50 am
by Zeitgeister
I don't like this comparison because it leaves out athleticism, and that is precisely why Griffin being a little undersized doesn't hurt him as much as it does Love. Not to mention that he is a better ball handler and has a pretty good face up game. If they were equal in terms of athleticism I would see the point but they are not.
Re: Draft prospect question
Posted: Mon Jun 1, 2009 3:57 am
by TheFranchise21
I have never seen Love being knocked for being too small for a PF. Where have you seen this rev?
He's too small to play center, yeah, but he's average size for a PF.
Re: Draft prospect question
Posted: Mon Jun 1, 2009 4:10 am
by revprodeji
It was a common draft thing last year. That love was undersized even for a pf.
Re: Draft prospect question
Posted: Mon Jun 1, 2009 4:19 am
by AQuintus
Based on Draftexpress' measurement database, the average measurements for a first round Power Forward are:
6' 8.25" w/o shoes
7' 1.6" wingspan
8' 11.4" standing reach
Based on that, they're both slightly undersized for their position.
Re: Draft prospect question
Posted: Mon Jun 1, 2009 4:29 am
by Zeitgeister
revprodeji wrote:It was a common draft thing last year. That love was undersized even for a pf.
A little undersized as power forward (not by much though) but also average athleticism or a little worse. I think that's where the concerns came into play. Obviously he's done well so far to overcome those concerns.
Re: Draft prospect question
Posted: Mon Jun 1, 2009 4:51 am
by casey
Zeitgeister wrote:revprodeji wrote:It was a common draft thing last year. That love was undersized even for a pf.
A little undersized as power forward (not by much though) but also average athleticism or a little worse. I think that's where the concerns came into play.
Obviously he's done well so far to overcome those concerns.
I wouldn't say that. There's not another big man in the entire league who got his shot blocked at the rim as often as Love (
link).
Re: Draft prospect question
Posted: Mon Jun 1, 2009 5:15 am
by revprodeji
From watching the games we all know that he struggled with that at the beginning of the year but it was not much of a problem as he progressed.