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OKC Derozan @3?

Posted: Fri Jun 5, 2009 2:18 pm
by the_bruce
If OKC is actually thinking of Derozan @3, I think MN would be a great trade partner. Derozan is very probable to fall to us. If they jump on either harden or rubio I think MN has the correct kind of assets to accomodate a swap.

Miller + perkovic rights? + 6(derozan) for Collison + watson + 3(harden or Rubio)

Re: OKC Derozan @3?

Posted: Fri Jun 5, 2009 2:29 pm
by Esohny
Seems like a lot to pay to move up. Maybe if Rubio is there, but I'd want at least a future 1st too.

Re: OKC Derozan @3?

Posted: Fri Jun 5, 2009 2:59 pm
by the_bruce
I've always prefered Harden over Rubio to be honest. Plus MN can make the all old skool team of

Love + Al + Harden

Re: OKC Derozan @3?

Posted: Fri Jun 5, 2009 3:25 pm
by Esohny
I'd love to have Harden. He's my clear #3 in the draft, that's just a lot to pay for him. If we could get Green included in the deal somehow, I'm on board 100%

Re: OKC Derozan @3?

Posted: Fri Jun 5, 2009 3:29 pm
by big3_8_19_21
That's a bit too much to move up. I'd do it without the Pekovic rights, though. Maybe add in something else, maybe one of our other picks in this draft.

Re: OKC Derozan @3?

Posted: Fri Jun 5, 2009 3:35 pm
by the_bruce
hmm I'd think that the key part of the trade would be pekovics rights. A Polished Euro center that can come fill the 5 spot in a year or 2 would be great for them.

Maybe something like...

Cards + pekovic rights + 6 for Watson + 3

Re: OKC Derozan @3?

Posted: Fri Jun 5, 2009 3:38 pm
by Esohny
Maybe we could use the 28th pick and/or our 2nd rounders instead of Pekovic's rights?

Re: OKC Derozan @3?

Posted: Fri Jun 5, 2009 3:40 pm
by JR Rider
don't give up pekovic rights... unless you think harden is an absolute future all-star... which i'm not... watching him play this past year he seemed extremely hesitant at the collegiate level - hes got great potential but im not THAT high on him. im not sure he'll be that much better than several other players that will be available, although it is a consensus that his draft stock is better at this point.

im fine with losing miller in that trade though.

Re: OKC Derozan @3?

Posted: Fri Jun 5, 2009 3:50 pm
by the_bruce
You all love pekovic to much, I blame rev. Pekovic is a replication of Al as far as I'm concerned, he isn't the 3rd big we need for our rotation. We need a long athletic faceup 4, who could play some 3. Earl Clark probably fits the mold of what I want.

Re: OKC Derozan @3?

Posted: Fri Jun 5, 2009 4:01 pm
by prefuse73
I agree with bruceallen. If peck's rights can net us Harden or Rubio, I would jump all over it.

Cards and peck and #6 for Watson and #3 seems pretty decent to me. However, if they just pick him at 3, its more than likely that Thabeet would fall to us at 6....but i'd prefer Harden.

Re: OKC Derozan @3?

Posted: Fri Jun 5, 2009 4:06 pm
by Esohny
I don't have any trouble with trading Pekovic's rights, I just think that including them, AND Miller, AND the 6 basically just for Harden is way too much value to give from our end. What other ammo would we have to make a trade? Just a couple of smaller expirings.

Like I said before, if we're giving that much, we should try to get Green in the trade and he fits what you said you want in Earl Clark, except that Green is more proven and has as much upside.

Re: OKC Derozan @3?

Posted: Fri Jun 5, 2009 5:56 pm
by deeney0
bruceallen61 wrote:You all love pekovic to much, I blame rev.


Thirded. This trade would be a must-do, in my mind, for anyone who has Harden well above the other guards. Me? I don't really see the separation, but Pek is a small price.

Re: OKC Derozan @3?

Posted: Fri Jun 5, 2009 6:16 pm
by Dewey
That would be a goood deal if we could get Rubio with the pick. I'm not a Hardin guy up at #3, but would nab him at #6 odviously - and that is a possibility. This draft just is not real defined and I feel jittery about moving up for anyone outside of Griffin or Rubio.

Re: OKC Derozan @3?

Posted: Fri Jun 5, 2009 6:18 pm
by Mayoistooslow
if it's for rubio, sure. for harden...thats too much to give up. we could use the pick on players with just as much promise

Re: OKC Derozan @3?

Posted: Fri Jun 5, 2009 7:45 pm
by AQuintus
If Sam Presti is seriously considering drafting DeRozan at 3 over Harden (and potentially Rubio), that's proof enough for me that DeRozan will be the better pro, and that we should draft him for ourselves.

Re: OKC Derozan @3?

Posted: Fri Jun 5, 2009 7:53 pm
by Devilzsidewalk
you make a good point

Re: OKC Derozan @3?

Posted: Fri Jun 5, 2009 7:57 pm
by Foye
Cut the rights for pekovic and I do that deal

Re: OKC Derozan @3?

Posted: Fri Jun 5, 2009 8:01 pm
by Zeitgeister
AQuintus wrote:If Sam Presti is seriously considering drafting DeRozan at 3 over Harden (and potentially Rubio), that's proof enough for me that DeRozan will be the better pro, and that we should draft him for ourselves.


When you think about it, it might be a better idea. Harden has the higher floor for sure, but OKC already has two players who will be primary ball handlers in Durant and Westbrook. DeRozan will probably be the better defender, and he can definitely work off the ball and hit the occasional jumpber. Plus he will be able to catch oops from Westbrook etc. That would be a really good situation for him. Although I think Thabeet would be the best option for that team.

Re: OKC Derozan @3?

Posted: Fri Jun 5, 2009 8:06 pm
by john2jer
I'd trade Pek's rights for a bag of Doritos.

Re: OKC Derozan @3?

Posted: Fri Jun 5, 2009 8:07 pm
by Devilzsidewalk
I'd trade Jefferson's rights for a bag of doritos, I really really like Doritos