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6 James Harden 6-5 222 G
18 James Johnson 6-9 257 SF
28 Ty Lawson 6-0 200 PG
45 Jermaine Taylor 6-5 210 G
47 Luke Nevill 7-2 265 C


I actually had Derrick Brown 18 but I looked at my board of Sfs wrong before I picked although I like Johnson as well. I was looking for powerful productive athletic athletes who has solid shooting % and a 7 footer who has potential to develop into a solid player.

Ty Lawson at 28?????

I love Harden/Lawson/Taylor. All 3 would be sweet steals at their respective picks. James Johnson depends on the rest of the draft, but I'm starting to warm up to him more. While he projects similar to Gomes, his athleticism gives him a higher ceiling than Gomes...still don't love the idea of James Johnson, but I'm not as turned off of him as I used to be.

i hope we dont pick Nevill ,he will just get cut cause of roster places ,i'd rather him go on a side that will use hes talent so he can at least stay in the nba a few years

I don't think Harden and Lawson will fall that far.

Doubt lawson falls that far. IMO if he's on the board at @18 you pick him, esp. if harden falls to 6

Yeah, that would be a shock if Harden and Lawson fell that far.

that'd be a dream draft. Also, how come Nevill is always projected so low, not just here, but everywhere. He's huge and has some semblance of skills. Seems like somebody would want a piece of that action earlier on.

I'll bet people compare him with Luc Longley, fair or not.

Esohny wrote:I'll bet people compare him with Luc Longley, fair or not.

Longley was a starting center on a championship team. If he was compared to Longley, he'd be a mid first round pick.

technically true, but wouldn't it be more accurate to say Luc Longley was a warm body who had the privilege to play with MJ and Pippen more than he was a starting center on a championship team.

Longley split time with 2 other centers and played maybe 25 mpg. He also put up about 9 points and 5 rebounds, despite being 7 feet tall and being constantly left open when his man would leave him to try to stop the greatest player ever. He was worse than that in the 4 years before coming to CHI. He was basically seen as a body with 6 fouls to give and was a tremendous disappointment as a 1st round pick who looked better than he was for a couple of years because he happened to play with such great teams and spectacular teammates. Your argument is like saying Robert Horry is better than Karl Malone because he has a bunch of rings and Malone doesn't.

This is how it shook out to 47--it was a feasible outcome

1.LA Clippers[kam77]Blake Griffin
2.Memphis Grizzlies[TMS]Ricky Rubio
3.Oklahoma Thunder{joec320]Hasheem Thabeet
4.Sacramento Kings{enyspree]Stephon Curry
5.Washington Wizards[Knicksfan]Jordan Hill
6.Minnesota Timberwolves[Briggs]James Harden
7.Golden State Warriors[Prezike]Branden Jennings
8.***NY Knicks***[Big Red Dog] DeMar Derozan
9.Toronto[EwingGlass] Gerald Hendersen
10.Milwaukee Bucks[nyk4ever] Tyreke Evans
11.NJ Nets[Uptown]Jrue Holiday
12.Charlotte Bobcats[orangeblobman] Earl Clark
13.Indiana Pacers[phazerzone]B J Mullens
14.Phoenix Suns[nyk4ever]Jeff Teague
15.Detroit Pistons[Ewingglass]Austin Daye
16.Chicago Bulls[Vdesai] Dejuan Blair
17.Philidelphia 76ers[Knicksdom]Johnny Flynn
18.Minnesota Timberwolves[Briggs] James Johnson
19.Atlanta Hawks[Phazerzone]Eric Maynor
20.Utah Jazz[joec32033] Tyler Hansbrough
21.New Orleans Hornets{Marv]Sam Young
22.Dallas Mavs[Prezike]Chase Budinger
23.Sacramento Kings[enyspree]Terrance Williams
24.Portland Trailblazers[joec320]Darren Collison
25.Oklahoma Thunder[joec320]Taj Gibson
26.Chicago Bulls[Vdesai]Marcus Thorton
27.Memphis Grizzlies{TMS]Dionte Christmas
28.Minnesota Wolves[Briggs]Ty Lawson
29.LA Lakers[Knicksdom]Derrick Brown
30.Clev Cavs[Kam77]Gani Lawal
31.Sacramento[enyspree]Dajuan Summers
32.Washington[Knicksfan]Wayne Ellington
33.Portland[John Wallace]Omri Cassipi
34.Denver[Prezike]Patrick Mills
35.Detroit[Ewingglass]Jeff Pendergraph
36.Memphis[TMS]Josh Heytvelt
37.San Antonio{Cosmic]Rodrique Beaubois
38.Portland[To Knicks] Big Red Dog Luke Harangody
39.Detroit [Ewingglass]Danny Green
40.Charlotte[orangeblobman]MILENKO TEPIC
41.Milwaukee[nyk4ever] Robert Dozier
42.LA Lakers{Knicksdom]Tony Douglas
43.Miami[Cosmic]Dante Cunningham
44.Detroit[Ewinglass]Alade Aminu
45.Minnesota[Briggs]Jermaine Taylor
46.Cleveland[kam77]Jodie Meeks
47.Minnesota[Briggs]Luke Nevill

Esohny wrote:Longley split time with 2 other centers and played maybe 25 mpg. He also put up about 9 points and 5 rebounds, despite being 7 feet tall and being constantly left open when his man would leave him to try to stop the greatest player ever. He was worse than that in the 4 years before coming to CHI. He was basically seen as a body with 6 fouls to give and was a tremendous disappointment as a 1st round pick who looked better than he was for a couple of years because he happened to play with such great teams and spectacular teammates. Your argument is like saying Robert Horry is better than Karl Malone because he has a bunch of rings and Malone doesn't.

He was a disappointment as a mid-lottery pick, if he was taken at 20 he would have been a fine pick. I'm not sure what Robert Horry and Karl Malone have to do with this. I'm just saying if Luke Nevill was guaranteed to be Luc Longley, he'd be taken in the first round.

Curry and Hill going top 5 would be fantastic. Your mock is skewed somewhat by joec320 taking Collison and Gibson in the top 25

Devilzsidewalk wrote:that'd be a dream draft. Also, how come Nevill is always projected so low, not just here, but everywhere. He's huge and has some semblance of skills. Seems like somebody would want a piece of that action earlier on.

hes a aussie big ,they usually dont turn out to well ,just look at some of them
Luc Longley - ok
Andrew Bogut - major dissapointment
Chris Anisty - played a few years was ok
Mark Bradtke - played a few years
that dude from the bulls - crappy
Ben Pepper - dont even think he made it
Nathan Jawai - hopefully will be better this year
most of these guys probley no one even heard of

is Aron Baynes declaring for the draft anyone know ?

wolves_fan_82au wrote:

Devilzsidewalk wrote:that'd be a dream draft. Also, how come Nevill is always projected so low, not just here, but everywhere. He's huge and has some semblance of skills. Seems like somebody would want a piece of that action earlier on.

hes a aussie big ,they usually dont turn out to well ,just look at some of them
Luc Longley - ok
Andrew Bogut - major dissapointment
Chris Anisty - played a few years was ok
Mark Bradtke - played a few years
that dude from the bulls - crappy
Ben Pepper - dont even think he made it
Nathan Jawai - hopefully will be better this year
most of these guys probley no one even heard of

is Aron Baynes declaring for the draft anyone know ?

He's way bigger than those guys though other than Luc, and I'm just saying like 25-40 range or so, not lotto pick or anything, but Jon G feels he might not even be drafted, I didn't know people were that low on him.

Worm Guts wrote:

Esohny wrote:Longley split time with 2 other centers and played maybe 25 mpg. He also put up about 9 points and 5 rebounds, despite being 7 feet tall and being constantly left open when his man would leave him to try to stop the greatest player ever. He was worse than that in the 4 years before coming to CHI. He was basically seen as a body with 6 fouls to give and was a tremendous disappointment as a 1st round pick who looked better than he was for a couple of years because he happened to play with such great teams and spectacular teammates. Your argument is like saying Robert Horry is better than Karl Malone because he has a bunch of rings and Malone doesn't.

He was a disappointment as a mid-lottery pick, if he was taken at 20 he would have been a fine pick. I'm not sure what Robert Horry and Karl Malone have to do with this. I'm just saying if Luke Nevill was guaranteed to be Luc Longley, he'd be taken in the first round.

I think you were overvaluing the fact that Longley played on a championship team, hence the analogy between a so-so player with several rings and a great player with none. Longley wouldn't have started on many teams, the bulls were a special case that didn't need talent at center. And if the wolves took BJ Mullens at 18 this year and he turned out to be Luc Longley, he'd be a bust.

Esohny wrote:And if the wolves took BJ Mullens at 18 this year and he turned out to be Luc Longley, he'd be a bust.

that'd be the greatest identity theft ever

"wait, thats not BJ Mullens at all..... LUC LONGLEY!?!?!"

and Luc would start cackling and throw down the smokescreen and when the smoke dissipates he's gone

Esohny wrote:
I think you were overvaluing the fact that Longley played on a championship team, hence the analogy between a so-so player with several rings and a great player with none. Longley wouldn't have started on many teams, the bulls were a special case that didn't need talent at center. And if the wolves took BJ Mullens at 18 this year and he turned out to be Luc Longley, he'd be a bust.

I don't think so. I shouldn't have mentioned the championship thing but Longley was 20 minute per game player for 10 years and 3 different teams. That's a solid career for someone picked in the mid-to-late first round. If we picked Mullens at 18 and he turned in to Longley, it would be a solid pick.