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Wolves do not sell #28 to Knicks
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:29 pm
by Worm Guts
via the Knicks board
Re: Wolves sell #28 to Knicks
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:32 pm
by Esohny
If that's true I hope it wasn't a straight cash deal. I mean, get a future 2nd rounder at least.
Re: Wolves sell #28 to Knicks
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:33 pm
by Devilzsidewalk
that's fine
Re: Wolves sell #28 to Knicks
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:35 pm
by Worm Guts
I was hoping to use to grease the wheels of another deal, maybe to move up from #18 or #5, but whatever. I don't know if that was possible.
Re: Wolves sell #28 to Knicks
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:37 pm
by Devilzsidewalk
Worm Guts wrote:I was hoping to use to grease the wheels of another deal, maybe to move up from #18 or #5, but whatever. I don't know if that was possible.
I'd have liked to at least spend it on an overseas player, but its hard to complain considering the money GT shelled out for Songaila to get the pick. If they'd done nothing, I'd be pissed, but we've got 3 players + draft pick for 2, so something had to be done I spose.
Re: Wolves sell #28 to Knicks
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:37 pm
by Winter Wonder
Dissapointing. I wanted Caspi, Jerebko or some stashed away Euro prospect....
EDIT: Victor Clavor would have even been an option to bring in if we grabbed Rubio.
Re: Wolves sell #28 to Knicks
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:39 pm
by Clincher
Esohny wrote:If that's true I hope it wasn't a straight cash deal. I mean, get a future 2nd rounder at least.
3 million was the cost.
Heck wouldent surprise me if you got our trade exemption from the Balkman deal if we cant land Sergio.
Re: Wolves sell #28 to Knicks
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:40 pm
by BillessuR6
Ny payed 3 mio for a pick, max possible!
Re: Wolves sell #28 to Knicks
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:41 pm
by slinky
lets remember the other ideas that that board has produced, so I will keep an open mind.
But if it happens, thats cool, the wolves can use it to buy out a roster spot. Pecherov/Madsen etc.
Re: Wolves sell #28 to Knicks
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:43 pm
by Winter Wonder
Clincher wrote:Esohny wrote:If that's true I hope it wasn't a straight cash deal. I mean, get a future 2nd rounder at least.
3 million was the cost.
Heck wouldent surprise me if you got our trade exemption from the Balkman deal if we cant land Sergio.
I would actually be very ok if we were able to acquire a TPE. We have made good use of a few of those in the past and it is getting some asset as opposed to nothing.
Re: Wolves sell #28 to Knicks
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:47 pm
by karch34
TPE isn't ideal, but it is something. I'm not thrilled with a move for just cash in and of itself.
My hopes of Marcus Thorton rounding out our new back court of Curry/Flynn, Evans/Harden, and Telfair are probably dashed though.
Re: Wolves sell #28 to Knicks
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:47 pm
by jpatrick
I was hoping 28 would help us either move up from 5 or from 18, land a shooter (Budinger) to replace Miller, or get someone to stash in Europe. Oh well, no way were we going to make four first round picks. I'd still be pretty suprised if we keep 18.
I don't think TPE's can just be "traded" like that, can they? I thought we had to send out salary in a trade while getting less in return to get a TPE. Could very well be wrong though. Is it possible we're sending Madsen or some small expiring to NY as part of the deal? Edit: scratch that, NY's TPE was only 1.36m I think.
Re: Wolves sell #28 to Knicks
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:48 pm
by B Calrissian
Devilzsidewalk wrote:Worm Guts wrote:I was hoping to use to grease the wheels of another deal, maybe to move up from #18 or #5, but whatever. I don't know if that was possible.
I'd have liked to at least spend it on an overseas player, but its hard to complain considering the money GT shelled out for Songaila to get the pick. If they'd done nothing, I'd be pissed, but we've got 3 players + draft pick for 2, so something had to be done I spose.
Yep, if the Foye trade had not happened yesterday I would be upset about this.
Maybe Vader is tossing the Emperor a bone. Or giving him the pick in an agreement that he not bid for Rubio. It would be nice to not have to one up Chandler+8.
Re: Wolves sell #28 to Knicks
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:51 pm
by B Calrissian
jpatrick wrote:I was hoping 28 would help us either move up from 5 or from 18, land a shooter (Budinger) to replace Miller, or get someone to stash in Europe. Oh well, no way were we going to make four first round picks.
I'd still be pretty suprised if we keep 18.
I don't think trading the 28th hurts their chances of moving up from 5.
Re: Wolves sell #28 to Knicks
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:04 pm
by jpatrick
Now Alan Hahn (who first reported this) is saying it's not a done deal yet. Also that he doesn't think a pick can just be sold for cash. I swear I remember picks just being sold in the past.
http://twitter.com/alanhahn
Re: Wolves sell #28 to Knicks
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:06 pm
by Winter Wonder
jpatrick wrote:Now Alan Hahn (who first reported this) is saying it's not a done deal yet. Also that he doesn't think a pick can just be sold for cash. I swear I remember picks just being sold in the past.
http://twitter.com/alanhahn
I think they are often technically traded for like a conditional #60 pick (extreme protection) which turns into nothing if not received the next year. Some kind of technical way to get around it.
Re: Wolves sell #28 to Knicks
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:15 pm
by gswhoop
Dammit I would have loved for the dubs to get that late pick. We would have given you one of our sg most likely maggs or crawford if you like them and can afford them or we would have just right out paid for the pick.
Re: Wolves sell #28 to Knicks
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:19 pm
by B Calrissian
justin06 wrote:Dammit I would have loved for the dubs to get that late pick. We would have given you one of our sg most likely maggs or crawford if you like them and can afford them or we would have just right out paid for the pick.
Wolves have about as much interest in Maggette as they do in Humphries. None.
If the Warriors wanted to buy they pick they should have made and offer for it. Unless they did and Kahn sent it with his old buddy Walsh instead. I am sure there will be better picks than 28 for sale on draft night.
Re: Wolves sell #28 to Knicks
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:22 pm
by shrink
You guys don't understand TPE's. You can't trade them - you can only use them.
The #28 is no big deal in this draft, and its doubtful that it would be worth $3 mil + its guaranteed salary of about $900,000 the next two years. I expect when I look at the RubeChat forum, they'll make a big deal about it, but its very unlikely that it becomes a player with any value in the NBA.
That said, I wouldn't have done the deal (especially since I don't have Glen Taylor looking over my shoulder, signing my paycheck.
1. Why do it with NYK, who is evidently trying to move up and make an offer for Rubio?
2. Why do it now, when we could wait until draft time and see if a prospect fell?
Maybe the Knicks were the only offer, and made demands that they'd rescind the offer if we didn't do it now. I don't know, and its hard to speculate what the market is for the #28. I posted earlier that this may be the first year a late pick doesn't draw $3 mil, so maybe we (taylor) should feel lucky? I don't know, but probably no big deal either way.
Re: Wolves sell #28 to Knicks
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:27 pm
by slinky
^Especially if the rumors about earlier picks being available for cash are true.
It would be funny though if the kicks paid 3 million for the #28 and then the wolves went and bought the #21 for 2-3 million.