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Small Por-MN

Posted: Fri Jul 3, 2009 10:29 pm
by Krapinsky
Two options:

First deal:

Outlaw for Smith + Houston 2nd

(Some Portland fans were interested, but ultimately decided they want to shop around first)

Second deal:

Webster for Smith + Brown

(Seemingly not as good of a deal, but Webster could turn out to be a diamond in the rough. This is essentially a pretty big gamble. However, he fits a need as he could play the 2 or the 3 and is very good long range shooter)

Re: Small Por-MN

Posted: Fri Jul 3, 2009 10:35 pm
by B Calrissian
I would rather have Webster but either deal would be fine with me.

Re: Small Por-MN

Posted: Fri Jul 3, 2009 10:48 pm
by Krapinsky
I edited the Webster deal (aka Shrink's favorite :wink: ) to include Brown as that deal was accepted by one of the better Blazer's posters.

Re: Small Por-MN

Posted: Fri Jul 3, 2009 10:57 pm
by Devilzsidewalk
WOW! how dumb are you! no one should ever listen to this guy!

Re: Small Por-MN

Posted: Fri Jul 3, 2009 11:00 pm
by Krapinsky
Devilzsidewalk wrote:WOW! how dumb are you! no one should ever listen to this guy!


Classic.

It works better when you quote some sarcasm though.

Re: Small Por-MN

Posted: Fri Jul 3, 2009 11:01 pm
by Devilzsidewalk
I wonder if they'll let me change my screen name to that

Re: Small Por-MN

Posted: Fri Jul 3, 2009 11:04 pm
by Krapinsky
It's worth noting that Webster has the same standing reach and wing span as Love -- 8'10" and 6'11"

Re: Small Por-MN

Posted: Fri Jul 3, 2009 11:12 pm
by Devilzsidewalk
its also worth noting he had screws inserted into his foot and will skip the summer league, we'd be trading for a guy that won't have played since a serious foot injury, kind of risky considering our delicate cap situation

Re: Small Por-MN

Posted: Fri Jul 3, 2009 11:14 pm
by Foye
I like both of them. Throw in a 2nd round pick in the 2nd trade. We have enough of them ;=)

Re: Small Por-MN

Posted: Fri Jul 3, 2009 11:14 pm
by Devilzsidewalk
Dr.Krapinsky wrote:
Devilzsidewalk wrote:WOW! how dumb are you! no one should ever listen to this guy!


Classic.

It works better when you quote some sarcasm though.


yea, still so random though considering the guy he was responding to just made a harmless post. Must've been Etan Thomas' relative or something.

Re: Small Por-MN

Posted: Fri Jul 3, 2009 11:14 pm
by Krapinsky
Devilzsidewalk wrote:its also worth noting he had screws inserted into his foot and will skip the summer league, we'd be trading for a guy that won't have played since a serious foot injury, kind of risky considering our delicate cap situation


It's this new theory I've invented. It's called buy low, sell high.

Next stop: Wall Street.

I'm going to be a millionaire! You'll see!

Re: Small Por-MN

Posted: Fri Jul 3, 2009 11:16 pm
by Krapinsky
Foye wrote:I like both of them. Throw in a 2nd round pick in the 2nd trade. We have enough of them ;=)


No need to. it was accepted. Only problem is getting Shrink to okay the salary cap hit. I don't think it's going to happen unless Telfair or Songalia is going out somehow.

Re: Small Por-MN

Posted: Fri Jul 3, 2009 11:19 pm
by Krapinsky
Devilzsidewalk wrote:its also worth noting he had screws inserted into his foot and will skip the summer league, we'd be trading for a guy that won't have played since a serious foot injury, kind of risky considering our delicate cap situation


Chris Paul knows something about that

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?sec ... id=2844477

Last time I heard, he was doing okay

Re: Small Por-MN

Posted: Fri Jul 3, 2009 11:19 pm
by Devilzsidewalk
Dr.Krapinsky wrote:
Devilzsidewalk wrote:its also worth noting he had screws inserted into his foot and will skip the summer league, we'd be trading for a guy that won't have played since a serious foot injury, kind of risky considering our delicate cap situation


It's this new theory I've invented. It's called buy low, sell high.

Next stop: Wall Street.

I'm going to be a millionaire! You'll see!


but...he's gonna be using his feet frequently...and there's screws in there

It'd be nice to own the Blazers for a change, but knowing the Wolves they'd make the trade then Webster would need his feet amputated 3 months later.

Re: Small Por-MN

Posted: Fri Jul 3, 2009 11:31 pm
by Devilzsidewalk
Dr.Krapinsky wrote:
Chris Paul knows something about that

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?sec ... id=2844477

Last time I heard, he was doing okay


Paul's recovery time was month, Webster had his surgery October of 2008, it's many many moons later and he still isn't cleared to run or jump

granted they're being extra cautious because they don't want anymore setbacks, but still

Re: Small Por-MN

Posted: Fri Jul 3, 2009 11:57 pm
by the_bruce
sure

Re: Small Por-MN

Posted: Sat Jul 4, 2009 2:04 am
by GopherIt!
I'd think about it but I'd probably pass on both.

Outlaw is at least expiring so there would be little risk but Webster has got four years remaining and as Devilz noted is coming off foot surgery. I don't see enough upside in him to warrant taking on that risk. I'd rather wait and focus on a bigger fish.

Re: Small Por-MN

Posted: Sat Jul 4, 2009 2:39 am
by skorff26
I like the Outlaw trade, he would get more minutes on our team because he can play some SF, and we need a little bit of SF depth.
Webster is too big of a risk IMO. 3 years (4th is a team option) for 14 million is a lot of money to pay someone who might not be completely healthy.

Re: Small Por-MN

Posted: Sat Jul 4, 2009 4:00 am
by ChazzleDazzle
Webster's on a 3 year deal with a team option for the 4th, but it's a pretty low cost one--he'd be making less than Love's rookie deal. I'd say it's worth the risk. He's never really gotten the chance to prove himself, and if he comes back from injury he could turn into something very worthwhile. If he can't come back from the injury, can't we wipe his salary anyway (if he's forced to retire)?

To me, it's just adding another rookie deal, essentially, and he still has a lot of upside.

Re: Small Por-MN

Posted: Sat Jul 4, 2009 4:04 am
by ChazzleDazzle
What about Telfair, Songaila, Brown for Blake, Webster. Blazers trim the 3 year deal without going straight to expirings. We add a PG with size to back up Flynn this year and take a flyer on Webster.

Throw in a 2nd rounder if necessary.