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LAC/MIN
Posted: Wed Jul 8, 2009 4:06 am
by SportsFan215
Would you guys do this deal?
Kaman/Thornton for Love/Cardinal/Madsen
This gives the Wolves a real center so Al can be a full-time PF, and they get a young, scoring wing on a rookie contract.
Re: LAC/MIN
Posted: Wed Jul 8, 2009 4:09 am
by dunkonu21
NOOOOOOOO
Re: LAC/MIN
Posted: Wed Jul 8, 2009 4:25 am
by jade_hippo
Thornton doesn't really do anything for me. Kaman has a really really bloated contract.
I'm not even sure the clippers do this. they'd still have a logjam in their frontcourt with Camby/Griffin/Jordan, it'd just get worse with another young guy wanting PT.
Re: LAC/MIN
Posted: Wed Jul 8, 2009 4:38 am
by Esohny
There is no reason for this for either team.
Re: LAC/MIN
Posted: Wed Jul 8, 2009 5:40 am
by The J Rocka
Clippers had their chance to dump Kaman here
Re: LAC/MIN
Posted: Wed Jul 8, 2009 6:10 am
by jade_hippo
the only way i'd take Kaman on is if we got Gordon in the deal.
Re: LAC/MIN
Posted: Wed Jul 8, 2009 7:28 am
by Foye
No. Kaman is hurt in about half the games of the season.
Re: LAC/MIN
Posted: Wed Jul 8, 2009 8:08 am
by jgustav1
SportsFan215 wrote:Would you guys do this deal?
Kaman/Thornton for Love/Cardinal/Madsen
This gives the Wolves a real center so Al can be a full-time PF, and they get a young, scoring wing on a rookie contract.
The Clippers aren't going to give up two starters for expirings and Love, who would end up being Blake Griffin's backup. They wouldn't offer it to Minnesota in the first place.
Re: LAC/MIN
Posted: Wed Jul 8, 2009 1:11 pm
by Devilzsidewalk
Love would be starting with Griffin you quasi-noob. Most importantly, when your team is absolute suck all, being a starter is not quite as relevant as 2 starters from the Lakers.
Let me give you an example: "yea, sorry man, gonna have to reject that Ryan Gomes and Sebastian Telfair for Eric Gordon trade because holy ****, that's 2 starters! We can't break up that sweet chemistry we got going. "
See, it doesn't make sense.
Re: LAC/MIN
Posted: Wed Jul 8, 2009 1:58 pm
by shrink
Devilzsidewalk wrote:Love would be starting with Griffin you quasi-noob. Most importantly, when your team is absolute suck all, being a starter is not quite as relevant as 2 starters from the Lakers.
Let me give you an example: "yea, sorry man, gonna have to reject that Ryan Gomes and Sebastian Telfair for Eric Gordon trade because holy ****, that's 2 starters! We can't break up that sweet chemistry we got going. "
See, it doesn't make sense.
Made me laugh.
I don't think the LAC offer has close to enough value for Kevin Love. Kaman's contract is too dangerous and we can do better by waiting a year, keeping Love, and trading the raw 2010 cap space. Thorton does nothing for me -- even as a starter on the Clippers.
Re: LAC/MIN
Posted: Wed Jul 8, 2009 2:09 pm
by funkatron101
Makes no sense for either team.
Re: LAC/MIN
Posted: Wed Jul 8, 2009 2:40 pm
by Devilzsidewalk
except the Clippers who get a great deal
Re: LAC/MIN
Posted: Wed Jul 8, 2009 2:41 pm
by jgustav1
Devilzsidewalk wrote:Love would be starting with Griffin you quasi-noob. Most importantly, when your team is absolute suck all, being a starter is not quite as relevant as 2 starters from the Lakers.
Let me give you an example: "yea, sorry man, gonna have to reject that Ryan Gomes and Sebastian Telfair for Eric Gordon trade because holy ****, that's 2 starters! We can't break up that sweet chemistry we got going. "
See, it doesn't make sense.
No, Devilzsidewalk you are wrong. Love would backup both Camby at C and Griffin at PF, maybe Griffin is quick enough to play some SF at times so in theory Love could get 30+ minutes but it would be as a backup. This trade won't go down anyway so it is pointless to debate it.
Re: LAC/MIN
Posted: Wed Jul 8, 2009 2:45 pm
by jgustav1
shrink wrote:Devilzsidewalk wrote:Love would be starting with Griffin you quasi-noob. Most importantly, when your team is absolute suck all, being a starter is not quite as relevant as 2 starters from the Lakers.
Let me give you an example: "yea, sorry man, gonna have to reject that Ryan Gomes and Sebastian Telfair for Eric Gordon trade because holy ****, that's 2 starters! We can't break up that sweet chemistry we got going. "
See, it doesn't make sense.
Made me laugh.
I don't think the LAC offer has close to enough value for Kevin Love. Kaman's contract is too dangerous and we can do better by waiting a year, keeping Love, and trading the raw 2010 cap space. Thorton does nothing for me -- even as a starter on the Clippers.
Laughable how people overrate their own players, he should be a starting PF but doesn't block shots and doesn't have the explosiveness to play ahead of Blake Griffin.
Re: LAC/MIN
Posted: Wed Jul 8, 2009 2:53 pm
by Devilzsidewalk
C Love
PF Griffin
fin
Re: LAC/MIN
Posted: Wed Jul 8, 2009 3:15 pm
by jgustav1
Devilzsidewalk wrote:C Love
PF Griffin
fin
No shot blocking.
Re: LAC/MIN
Posted: Wed Jul 8, 2009 3:32 pm
by dunkonu21
Devilz is right this would be a steal for the Clippers.
Although he's wrong about what the line-up would be if they stole Love from us in this deal.
It'd be:
SF: Griffin
PF: Love
C: Camby/Jordan
Fin!
Re: LAC/MIN
Posted: Wed Jul 8, 2009 3:32 pm
by mandurugo
Devilzsidewalk wrote:C Love
PF Griffin
fin
Love is a small power forward, he can't play center. That combo is almost as bad as Love/Jefferson - it's fine for the regular season but it ain't going nowhere in the playoffs... if it ever gets there.
Re: LAC/MIN
Posted: Wed Jul 8, 2009 3:57 pm
by Devilzsidewalk
no, I'm right. Love has an advantage against centers by taking them out of the paint with his jumper and using his quickness on the glass to get position and he has enough strength to defend them. Against PFs they're going to be in his grill the whole way on offense D'ing him up and can kill him offensively with their speed advantage.
Re: LAC/MIN
Posted: Wed Jul 8, 2009 4:00 pm
by john2jer
Kaman has proven he can't play with a PF the caliber of Elton Brand, how would he play with Jefferson? Um, no thanks. Big Al would be all "WTF, mate?"
Thornton is ok, but he's not that much of an upgrade over Ryan Gomes.