MIN/NJN/SAC

[Marc]

Trade Idea: Brian Cardinal + Antonio Daniels + Mark Blount + Chucky Atkins for Rafer Alston + Trenton Hassell + Tony Battie + Bobby Simmons + Sean Williams + Chris Douglas-Roberts

Part a: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... eId=l9jr65 (Kings could send a future 2nd too) / Blount for Thomas.
Part b: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... eId=poontj / Thomas for Simmons.
Part c: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... eId=mcr75e / Atkins for Hassell.
Part d: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... eId=mcl9j4 / Daniels for Battie.
Part e: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... eId=kkfxyv / Cardinal for Alston, Douglas-Robets & Williams.

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Why for TWolves? They get better for this season and they get 2 interesting young players with cheap team options for next off-season. There must be some fans wanting Minnesota to tank in order to get a high pick but the fact is that if they do well next season, they will have a better chance to get a good FA and Rambis might want to win right from the start... Winning is always good, lol.

Why for Nets? Douglas-Roberts and Williams do not appear in Nets' future plans and i bet they would not pass on a chance like this to save $7+ M for this season since they are trying to make as much money as possible before they leave New Jersey.

Why for Kings? They trade a overpaid player for a less overpaid player.

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I think Nets would also accept a deal in which they send Alston, Williams, Simmons & Battie for Thomas, Daniels & Cardinal. In that case, they would save $2.6M that is still a lot of money.

For Wolves: Alston, Williams, Simmons, Battie >> Cardinal, Daniels, Blount.

or

Alston, Douglas-Roberts or Williams, Hassell & Battie for Atkins, Daniels & Cardinal. They would save around $2.8M (or $3.7 with Williams) with that deal.

For Wolves: Alston, Douglas-Roberts, Hassell, Battie >> Cardinal, Daniels, Atkins.

[GopherIt!]

so this trade is Brian and Blount for Bobby and Battie?
Antonio and Atkins for Alston?
and dealing Daniels for Douglas-Roberts?

What about Tony & Trenton now that we traded Thomas?
or Sean & Simmons since we sold Songalia?

Always remember, if it doesn't rhyme the trade won't work.

[Marc]

so this trade is Brian and Blount for Bobby and Battie?
Antonio and Atkins for Alston?
and dealing Daniels for Douglas-Roberts?

What about Tony & Trenton now that we traded Thomas?
or Sean & Simmons since we sold Songalia?

Always remember, if it doesn't rhyme the trade won't work.

Check the last without Kings.

Alston, Douglas-Roberts or Williams, Hassell & Battie for Atkins, Daniels & Cardinal.

I think it is worth at least a thought, LOL. The deal with Williams would make the most sense in financial terms.

This one:
Alston, Williams, Hassell & Battie for Atkins, Daniels & Cardinal.
Part a: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... eId=mcr75e
Part b: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... eId=mcl9j4
Part c: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... eId=nberbn

[Narf]

Every time I see a trade involving Atkins I think "but Utah wants to give Boozer away for cap space, and his contract is non-guaranteed". Is that unhealthy?

[Marc]

Every time I see a trade involving Atkins I think "but Utah wants to give Boozer away for cap space, and his contract is non-guaranteed". Is that unhealthy?

But it is difficult to work something out with Boozer because of his big salary and you would need a 3rd team to take Boozer because Wolves have no use for him. Moreover, Jazz already said they are not trading Boozer for just cap space. And a team trading for Boozer might want a guarantee that they will be able to re-sign him but an extension is not possible because he is asking for a lot of money.

[Narf]

Every time I see a trade involving Atkins I think "but Utah wants to give Boozer away for cap space, and his contract is non-guaranteed". Is that unhealthy?

But it is difficult to work something out with Boozer because of his big salary and you would need a 3rd team to take Boozer because Wolves have no use for him. Moreover, Jazz already said they are not trading Boozer for just cap space.

So you're saying it's unhealthy?

I generally agree, and it's a pretty good trade. But the whole purpose of trading cap space for Boozer is to flip him to another team. A 3rd team isn't that hard to find either. Utah can say what they want publicly, their owners don't want to pay 28 million dollars for Boozer this year (if they dropped his salary, they'd fit under the lux). That's not really relevant, as we don't have 13 mil in raw cap space, but they would make that trade.

[shrink]

I just assume Boozer is going to a team that will offer him an extension, but with Boozer, they have to make sure he doesn't have his fingers crossed behind his back.

These are the kind of trades that I would like to see. Atkins will have value in the league, though he'd have even more to a third team that's over the lux. I agree NJN might want to make money, but guys like CDR on a cheap contract may be assets they want to hold onto for longterm savings. $7 mil is a lot of money though .. interesting idea.

[Marc]

Another option with GSW included.

TWolves:
Atkins, Daniels & Cardinal for Claxton, Williams, Hassell, Battie & 1st Round Pick (GSW).
Nets:
Alston, Williams, Hassell & Battie for Atkins, Daniels & Cardinal.
Warriors:
Claxton & 1st round pick for Alston.

Part a: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... eId=mcr75e
Part b: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... eId=mcl9j4
Part c: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... eId=nberbn
Part d: Alston for Claxton + 1st (Warriors)

[revprodeji]

I would decline both.

Use the expirings to bring in a major piece, or let them expire and make a run at a free agent. We do not need any more Nickel prospects.

[Marc]

I would decline both.

Use the expirings to bring in a major piece, or let them expire and make a run at a free agent. We do not need any more Nickel prospects.

In the last trade idea, Minnesota would get all expiring contracts, Williams with a TO in next off-season and a good 1st round pick.