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They have some updating to do..

no way Brewer is better than Gomes

and ellington 62? DJ fcking White is 63............


Kevin Love 72, James Harden 74? thats just wrong...........Ben wallace 71?

Taylor Griffin 60, Ryan Hollins 54? whoa u know Ryan's salary quadrapled Taylor's...why would we sign him if he;s that bad!

lol at Jerome Jame 42, Thabeet 57, dudes just sucks

Gallinari 56? Knicks fans are gonna be pissed.

i know this was touched upon last year in the rankings and its looking to be more of a factor, but when you are talking about different positions, their overall rankings don't compare. a 78 PG is not necessarily better than a 72 C.

edit** looks like the rankings are now 25-99, so a much broader range of scores.

Mcfale313 wrote:no way Brewer is better than Gomes

and ellington 62? DJ fcking White is 63............


Kevin Love 72, James Harden 74? thats just wrong...........Ben wallace 71?

Taylor Griffin 60, Ryan Hollins 54? whoa u know Ryan's salary quadrapled Taylor's...why would we sign him if he;s that bad!

lol at Jerome Jame 42, Thabeet 57, dudes just sucks

You have to realize that these ratings aren't really a reflection of how good a player is or a means to compare them against each other. From what I understand, a player's overall rating is based primarily on how good they are at certain things based on their position. (For example, a point guard has high numbers in passing and dribbling but low in everything else will have a higher overall rating than one who has high ratings in inside scoring and rebounding but low in everything else.)

Also, the ratings are effected by how good you are at a variety of things, so since Hollins can rebound and block shots very well but sucks at everything else, he gets a 54. Rondo, on the other hand, can do just about everything but shoot the 3 ball at an average or above average rate, so he gets an 87. That doesn't mean he's necessarily better than Jefferson (84 overall), it jsut means that he's good at a lot of things and great at the point guard things.

AQuintus wrote:

Mcfale313 wrote:no way Brewer is better than Gomes

and ellington 62? DJ fcking White is 63............


Kevin Love 72, James Harden 74? thats just wrong...........Ben wallace 71?

Taylor Griffin 60, Ryan Hollins 54? whoa u know Ryan's salary quadrapled Taylor's...why would we sign him if he;s that bad!

lol at Jerome Jame 42, Thabeet 57, dudes just sucks

You have to realize that these ratings aren't really a reflection of how good a player is or a means to compare them against each other. From what I understand, a player's overall rating is based primarily on how good they are at certain things based on their position. (For example, a point guard has high numbers in passing and dribbling but low in everything else will have a higher overall rating than one who has high ratings in inside scoring and rebounding but low in everything else.)

Also, the ratings are effected by how good you are at a variety of things, so since Hollins can rebound and block shots very well but sucks at everything else, he gets a 54. Rondo, on the other hand, can do just about everything but shoot the 3 ball at an average or above average rate, so he gets an 87. That doesn't mean he's necessarily better than Jefferson (84 overall), it jsut means that he's good at a lot of things and great at the point guard things.

Good point but i still think it's bs how they did it, i would rather have the game lowest player rating 59-97, more avg players in high 60s-mid 70s, put Hollins at like 66, Love at 77 or + or Gomes at 71, the low numbers in the game is just intimidating to look at, my first reaction to seeing these ratings was definitely a slap in the face and it was for others too.

ex: Ty Lawson 74 = Jonny Flynn 74

i like the bigger range for ratings. can compare players of the same position with more scrutiny.

Most people are looking at these ratings relative to what they knew about the rating system in years past. It's completely different this year, so you can throw all of that out.

Zeitgeister wrote:Most people are looking at these ratings relative to what they knew about the rating system in years past. It's completely different this year, so you can throw all of that out.

Exactly. I'd say theres a good 7-10 pt difference in where they are now to where they would be in the old rating system.

I kinda like the new ratings ( 25-99), What their trying to do is separate the Superstars from the rest of the pack. I will agree there seems like some player stats are off here and there but overall it seems improved. In association it was always to easy to take a decent player and make him 95+ because the ratings were to high to start with.

At an offensive rating of 38, there is no doubt people are going to make him their go to scorer

I think roughly, the majority of players are about -10 points of what they would have been in the old system. A lot of guys are exactly 10 points lower than what they were last years. So love would be around 82. Ellington around 72. For players like Lebron who are around 96, in previous 2K games a player would be rated 99 but in actuality their true rating would be above 99. It would like 106 or 112. I remember back in 2K5, KG's true rating was well over 100.

What do you guys think of my ratings? I usually just change them for myself but I am thinking of uploading them for public download this year..

1. LeBron James 97
2. Kobe Bryant 96
3. Dwyane Wade 96
4. Chris Paul 95
5. Dwight Howard 94
6. Tim Duncan 93
7. Dirk Nowtizki 92
8. Carmelo Anthony 92
9. Deron Williams 92
10. Brandon Roy 92
11. Kevin Garnett 91
12. Yao Ming 91
13. Chris Bosh 90
14. Tony Parker 90
15. Pau Gasol 90
16. Amare Stoudemire 90
17. Al Jefferson 89
18. Paul Pierce 89
19. Vince Carter 89
20. Kevin Durant 89
21. Danny Granger 89
22. Chauncey Billups 88
23. Carlos Boozer 88
24. Joe Johnson 87
25. Andre Iguoudala 87
26. Steve Nash 86
27. Gilbert Arenas 86
28. Manu Ginobili 85
29. David West 85
30. LaMarcus Aldridge 85
31. Caron Butler 85
32. Antawn Jamison 85
33. Derrick Rose 84
34. Devin Harris 84
35. Kevin Martin 84
36. Shaquille O'Neal 84
37. Ray Allen 84
38. Tracy McGrady 83
39. Rashard Lewis 83
40. Ben Gordon 83
41. Rajon Rondo 83
42. Gerald Wallace 83
43. Michael Redd 83
44. Ron Artest 83
45. Josh Howard 83
46. Jameer Nelson 82
47. Mo Williams 82
48. Emeka Okafor 82
49. Lamar Odom 82
50. Richard Hamilton 82







1. Chris Paul 95 (30)
2. Deron Williams 92 (21.1)
3. Tony Parker 90 (23.4)
4. Chauncey Billups 88 (18.8)
5. Steve Nash 86 (19.5)
6. Gilbert Arenas 86 (18.9)
7. Devin Harris 84 (21.6)
8. Derrick Rose 84 (16)
9. Rajon Rondo 83 (18.8)
10. Jameer Nelson 82 (20.6)
11. Mo Williams 82 (17.2)
12. Andre Miller 82 (18.6)
13. Baron Davis 82 (14.5)
14. Monta Ellis 82 (14.5)
15. Jose Calderon 81 (18.8)
16. Jason Kidd 81 (16.9)
17. Mike Bibby 81 (16.3)
18. Ramon Sessions 80 (17.6)
19. TJ Ford 80 (16.6)
20. Rodney Stuckey 80 (14.7)


1. Kobe Bryant 96 (24.3)
2. Dwyane Wade 96 (30.4)
3. Brandon Roy 92 (24)
4. Vince Carter 89 (19.3)
5. Joe Johnson 87 (18.2)
6. Andre Iguodala 87 (18.4)
7. Manu Ginobili 85 (22.9)
8. Ray Allen 84 (17.3)
9. Kevin Martin 84 (19.2)
10. Tracy McGrady 83 (16.3)
11. Michael Redd 83 (17.9)
12. Josh Howard 83 (17)
13. Ben Gordon 83 (17)
14. Jason Terry 82 (19.3)
15. Rip Hamilton 82 (16.9)
16. Allen Iverson 82 (15.9)
17. OJ Mayo 82 (14.2)
18. John Salmons 81 (16)
19. Jason Richardson 81 (16.9)
20. JR Smith 81 (16.8)


1. LeBron James 97 (31.7)
2. Carmelo Anthony 92 (19)
3. Kevin Durant 89 (20.8)
4. Danny Granger 89 (21.8)
5. Paul Pierce 89 (17.7)
6. Caron Butler 85 (18.8)
7. Gerald Wallace 83 (18.6)
8. Ron Artest 83 (15.6)
9. Hedo Turkoglu 83 (14.8)
10. Tayshaun Prince 82 (15)
11. Richard Jefferson 82 (15.4)
12. Shawn Marion 82 (15.4)
13. Stephen Jackson 81 (16.1)
14. Luol Deng 81 (14.7)
15. Rudy Gay 81 (15.1)
16. Corey Maggette 81 (16.9)
17. Andrei Kirilenko 80 (16.8)
18. Thaddeus Young 80 (15.3)
19. Jeff Green 80 (13.9)
20. Marvin Williams 79 (16)


1. Dirk Nowitzki 92 (23.1)
2. Kevin Garnett 91 (21.2)
3. Chris Bosh 90 (22.2)
4. Pau Gasol 90 (22.2)
5. Amare Stoudemire 90 (20.3)
6. Al Jefferson 89 (23.1)
7. Carlos Boozer 88 (17.2)
8. David West 85 (18.9)
9. LaMarcus Aldridge 85 (19.1)
10. Antawn Jamison 85 (20.6)
11. Rashard Lewis 83 (16.8)
12. Elton Brand 83 (14.6)
13. Lamar Odom 82 (16.5)
14. Josh Smith 82 (17.2)
15. Paul Millsap 82 (18.6)
16. David Lee 81 (19)
17. Troy Murphy 81 (17.8)
18. Zach Randolph 81 (19.7)
19. Michael Beasley 81 (17.2)
20. Luis Scola 80 (17)


1. Dwight Howard 94 (25.4)
2. Tim Duncan 93 (24.4)
3. Yao Ming 91 (22.6)
4. Shaquille O'Neal 84 (22.3)
5. Andrew Bynum 82 (20)
6. Brook Lopez 82 (17.9)
7. Emeka Okafor 82 (18)
8. Nene 81 (18.8)
9. Andris Biedrins 81 (19.1)
10. Memo Okur 81 (17.5)
11. Jermaine O'Neal 81 (15.4)
12. Andrew Bogut 80 (16.2)
13. Brendan Haywood 80 (14.9)
14. Al Horford 80 (17)
15. Greg Oden 79 (18.1)
16. Chris Kaman 79 (14.5)
17. Marc Gasol 79 (16.7)
18. Andrea Bargnani 79 (14.6)
19. Zydrunas Illgauskus 78 (18)
20. Tyson Chandler 78 (13.4)




Sessions 80/Flynn 76
Brewer 74/Pavlovic 72
Gomes 76/Wilkins 71
Love 79
Jefferson 89/Hollins 68

I like them as is...

What do the numbers in parentheses mean?

Oh that was each players PER last season

That Nicka wrote:What do you guys think of my ratings? I usually just change them for myself but I am thinking of uploading them for public download this year..


5. Amare Stoudemire 90 (20.3)
6. Al Jefferson 89 (23.1)

Al>>Amare