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So where's MNWI these days. How good are POR's foreign prospects?

POR GETS: Gomes

MIN GETS: Outlaw (expiring, injured until March) + rights to foreign players (Claver, Freeland, Kopponen)

WHY FOR POR? With all their injuries, Webster is really their only healthy SF. Gomes is productive, would look good on a contender coming off the bench, and he's not injured.

WHY FOR MIN? At a minimum, we save Gomes cap space. Outlaw gets a taste of MIN, and he's a cheaper alternative to signing Rudy Gay. I've heard of all three foreign prospects, but know little, particularly if they'd come over. It would give us potential assets for 2010.

Anyone want to educate me on Claver, Freeland, Kopponen?

Slightly off topic, but related. I've been considering trying to pick up the Pacers 1st rounder, which should be high with Granger out for a while. They need a PG.

What about Sessions + Charlotte pick as a basis for their pick (top 3 protection)?

MnWI loved Kopponen back in the day.

I like the Indy deal better.

I don't want to help Portland (I hate helping same division teams). One major flaw Portland has is injuries (specifically Oden), do we really want to give them in insurance policy? Plus, it's just not worth seeing Przybilla, Gomes, and Fernandez come off the bench.

I'd do it for Claver. Gets Ricky another Spaniard to play with, plus he's a SF.

On second though, let me see how good these guys are before rushing anything. I'm too tired to think right now.

Gomes has been playing better than ever these past few games. I really don't think we should trade him

allweneedisLOVE wrote:Gomes has been playing better than ever these past few games. I really don't think we should trade him

If we trade them Gomes I want their 1st rd pick, if it's Brewer then just Outlaw is enough.

Esohny wrote:Slightly off topic, but related. I've been considering trying to pick up the Pacers 1st rounder, which should be high with Granger out for a while. They need a PG.

What about Sessions + Charlotte pick as a basis for their pick (top 3 protection)?

Why would Indy trade their pick? They wouldn't do it for Sessions + Charlotte pick.

Worm Guts wrote:

Esohny wrote:Slightly off topic, but related. I've been considering trying to pick up the Pacers 1st rounder, which should be high with Granger out for a while. They need a PG.

What about Sessions + Charlotte pick as a basis for their pick (top 3 protection)?

Why would Indy trade their pick? They wouldn't do it for Sessions + Charlotte pick.

Indiana is tough. I don't think they can make a trade for Sessions until they move TJ Ford's two year deal at $8.5 mil/year .. and that would be tough. Earl Watson ($2.8 mil expiring), has been an adequate back-up lately, and they have Luther Head, who's kind of a PG/SG. Perhaps a three-way deal? I just think that its going to take their pick to move Ford's deal.

Well, there's no way they use their pick to move Ford.

Claver: 21 years old, 6'10" SF/PF http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Victor-Claver-336/

Freeland: 22 years old, 6' 11" PF http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Joel-Freeland-1055/

Koponen: 21 years old, 6' 5" PG/SG http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Pet ... onen-1273/

One downside here .. POR used late 1sts on all three guys, so they would carry cap holds into the 2010 season. They'd still carry decent trade value, or be on cheap deals if we brought them over. Maybe a protected pick would be better - though that could have the same hold.

Worm Guts wrote:

Esohny wrote:Slightly off topic, but related. I've been considering trying to pick up the Pacers 1st rounder, which should be high with Granger out for a while. They need a PG.

What about Sessions + Charlotte pick as a basis for their pick (top 3 protection)?

Why would Indy trade their pick? They wouldn't do it for Sessions + Charlotte pick.

All their fans keep making threads about how they need a starting PG for the future and they have other needs as well. So my thoughts were that this draft is not deep for points, so they might trade a pick which will probably be somewhere from 6-12 for Sessions, who has shown that he can start and is still very young, and a pick anywhere from 4-9 spots lower in the 1st round as payment. I included the top 3 protection in the unlikely event that they win the John Wall sweepstakes. In that scenario, they can either keep Sessions as a great backup, or use him as a trade chip.

Do you think the value is way off, or that they would never trade their pick just in principal?

John Doe [MN] wrote:I'd do it for Claver. Gets Ricky another Spaniard to play with, plus he's a SF.

He had a long time ankle injury in the last session, but in the draft he was picked higher than everybody had predicted. He didn't play frequently in our national team last summer, but it's interesting watch if he can recovery his progress.

Rubio only has played with him some few minutes in his entire career.

And pay attention : the most interesting ACB's player today is Velickovic, and probably he will be in 2010 draft. Have Minnie 2010's draft picks? ... then they shouldn't to lose sight this player.

I would love to swing a trade for Victory Claver.
From what i have researched from him hes around 6-10
Hes athletic and runs the floor pretty well. And can shoot from outside and is a high flyer which i love! I like the notes ive read of him having a high bball IQ and can make plays without the ball.

lobishome wrote:
And pay attention : the most interesting ACB's player today is Velickovic, and probably he will be in 2010 draft. Have Minnie 2010's draft picks? ... then they shouldn't to lose sight this player.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Nov ... ovic-5141/

The interesting thing is according to his DX profile he also used to play with Pekovic for Partizan. Even though he's a PF, i would definitely consider him with the Utah pick based on that connection alone -- assuming we get it. He's got great numbers this year. I wonder if he's a little like Nocioni and can play SF?

Sign me up, Claver would be a nice piece, Freeland was drafted a couple of years ago and was supposedly really raw and from what I've read is developing nicely, don't know much about koponen but again another late 1st rounder that may help/develop.

Only problem is that we may not want the cap hold next summer because they were 1st rounders, but I think if we did not any of the 3 we could trade them for a 2nd rounder, cash, or a very protected future 1st.

As for the Sessions trade, I'm not as high on it, but I'd probably do it as well

SpencerBusch wrote:The interesting thing is according to his DX profile he also used to play with Pekovic for Partizan. Even though he's a PF, i would definitely consider him with the Utah pick based on that connection alone -- assuming we get it. He's got great numbers this year. I wonder if he's a little like Nocioni and can play SF?

He is playing like 3/4, but he can shoot from 3pt and he knows play in the perimeter. In the ACB sometimes he play like PF but the NBA isn't like the ACB. For the NBA he will be SF, definitely.