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Stein: Sessions could be on the move
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 6:20 am
by Klomp
5. Ramon Sessions, Minnesota Timberwolves
New Wolves personnel boss David Kahn doesn't give many hints to nosy scribes, especially considering he's a former sportswriter, but more than one team we've consulted continues to believe that Sessions -- if you allow us to employ the proper GM-speak -- was signed by Minnesota with the intent to "flip" him.
I do wonder if it's too soon for such flipping, since Minnesota can't even try to convince Ricky Rubio to come to the States before the 2011-12 season because of Rubio's new contract with perennial Spanish club power Barcelona. It's also unclear what sort of market Sessions could generate after a slow start with the Wolves and when he's just one season into a four-year, $16.4 million deal.
Yet I've also heard a couple of GMs say they do expect Sessions to be made available and that his contract is not so prohibitive. We'll see.
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Re: Stein: Sessions could be on the move
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 6:29 am
by moss_is_1
I hope not, he's a beast off the bench for us and I wish that he could start over Flynn most nights right now.
Re: Stein: Sessions could be on the move
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 6:33 am
by allweneedisLOVE
Flynn should be the one that is traded. Flynn may be flashier than Sessions, but Sessions is clearly a much better PG.
Re: Stein: Sessions could be on the move
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 6:35 am
by moss_is_1
^ no.....not yet anyway. Flynn had been getting his assists up the last few games and looks better, just forces too much. He'll learn and be a beast.
Re: Stein: Sessions could be on the move
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 6:41 am
by allweneedisLOVE
I'm not saying I want to trade Flynn because I really like what I've seen from him so far. But if they decide on trading one of the two, I don't see how you choose Sessions. He looked fantastic tonight and has been all season, just hasn't had any minutes.
Re: Stein: Sessions could be on the move
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:34 am
by hotshotschamp
Flynn in 3 years will be a total beast. Sessions just has that experience on him playing nbdl/bucks. More reps. Flynn has a much higher upside and work ethic to reach it.
I like sessions though, pretty solid player, I want to keep him on this team. Good player.
Re: Stein: Sessions could be on the move
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:56 am
by southern wolf
It's all speculation really. Espn have based that story on the opinions of a couple of GMs not named David Kahn. IMO Kahn would trade anyone on the roster if the right deal came along.
Re: Stein: Sessions could be on the move
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 2:51 pm
by Steve_Holiday
I don't believe the only motivation for the Sessions signing was to "flip" him. Having an insurance policy for Flynn had to also play into it. Given that when Sessions gets minutes, he's almost always teamed with Jawai, Pavlovic, Wilkens, etc, it's not a surprise that he's had a "slow start."
I wouldn't be surprised if Sessions gets moved, but it seems to me that it would make more sense around draft time.
Re: Stein: Sessions could be on the move
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 2:57 pm
by Esohny
Steve_Holiday wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if Sessions gets moved, but it seems to me that it would make more sense around draft time.
I could see that. Although I could see him being a big piece in a deal (probably a multi teamer) for a veteran wing at the trade deadline as well.
Re: Stein: Sessions could be on the move
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 5:50 pm
by Klomp
Some package possibilities:
Atlanta - for either Josh Smith or Marvin Williams?
Charlotte - Gerald Wallace
Oklahoma City - Jeff Green
Philadelphia - for either Andre Iguodala or Thaddeus Young
Note: I AM NOT SAYING STRAIGHT-UP DEALS. These would just be the core pieces coming back. We would obviously have to add more to these deals to make them work for both sides.
Re: Stein: Sessions could be on the move
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 5:51 pm
by Klomp
Esohny wrote:Steve_Holiday wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if Sessions gets moved, but it seems to me that it would make more sense around draft time.
I could see that. Although I could see him being a big piece in a deal (probably a multi teamer) for a veteran wing at the trade deadline as well.
Don't all trades have to be multi-teamers? When was the last time a team traded with itself?
Re: Stein: Sessions could be on the move
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 5:58 pm
by Esohny
klomp44 wrote:Esohny wrote:Steve_Holiday wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if Sessions gets moved, but it seems to me that it would make more sense around draft time.
I could see that. Although I could see him being a big piece in a deal (probably a multi teamer) for a veteran wing at the trade deadline as well.
Don't all trades have to be multi-teamers? When was the last time a team traded with itself?
I thought it was clear that I meant more than 2 teams, because our assets don't directly match up with a lot of trading partner needs.
Main Entry: multi-
Function: combining form
Etymology: Latin, from multus much, many — more at meliorate
1 a : many : multiple : much <multivalent> b : more than two <multilateral>
Re: Stein: Sessions could be on the move
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 7:04 pm
by GopherIt!
I knew it, another Klompspiracy. Through the marvels of satellite technology & a little water boarding I managed to capture this sreen shot just before he changed it.
Klomp Klompeth:
Some package possibilities, Al Jefferson for:
Atlanta - for either Mike Bibby or Marvin Martin?
Charlotte - Raymond Felton
Oklahoma City - Etan Thomas
Philadelphia - for either Elton Brand or Elmer Fudd
Note: I AM NOT SAYING STRAIGHT-UP DEALS. These would just be the core pieces coming back. We would obviously have to add more to these deals to make them work for both sides.
Re: Stein: Sessions could be on the move
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 7:07 pm
by Klomp
GopherIt! wrote:Klomp klompeth:
Some package possibilities, Al Jefferson for:
Atlanta - for either Mike Bibby or Marvin Martin?
Charlotte - Raymond Felton
Oklahoma City - Etan Thomas
Philadelphia - for either Elton Brand or Elmer Fudd
Note: I AM NOT SAYING STRAIGHT-UP DEALS. These would just be the core pieces coming back. We would obviously have to add more to these deals to make them work for both sides.
LOL......we all make mistakes....but I like the "klompeth" part..
Re: Stein: Sessions could be on the move
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 7:35 pm
by Worm Guts
Sessions is obviously available, but I have a hard time thinking of a good deadline deal that fits with what we're trying to do. He's not good enough to be the main piece in a deal for a really good wing and I'm not interested in trading him for expirings and a late first.
Re: Stein: Sessions could be on the move
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:10 pm
by deeney0
Brandon Rush was mentioned on the trade board. Sessions for Rush+Diener works. I'd do that.
Re: Stein: Sessions could be on the move
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:14 pm
by big3_8_19_21
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/brandon_rush/Brandon Rush is putting up putrid stats through 20 games.
Seriously regressed since last year looking at his stats
Re: Stein: Sessions could be on the move
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:43 am
by Baphomet
From what Pacers games I've seen, Rush is a pretty solid defender (better than Brewer, I'd say). With that said, he appears to have zero confidence in his shot and seems very indecisive and out of control on the offensive side of the ball, again not too dissimilar to Brewer.
Would something based around Sessions for Rudy Fernandez work? Portland could use a young PG if the rumors of Miller's discontent are true, and Bayless hasn't panned out as they've hoped just yet. Also Blake sucks. Minny could use a 3pt sharpshooter and I could see him starting at SG for them, and the prospect of him and Ricky playing together in the future is enough to make one salivate.
The problem is, Blazers fans seem to think that Rudy holds absurdly high value from what I've seen on the trade board. Would Portland actually be willing to part with him?
Re: Stein: Sessions could be on the move
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:48 am
by Chi town
no.
Re: Stein: Sessions could be on the move
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:14 am
by Calinks
I'm pretty good with being solid at the PG position and worry about others. With Flynn and Sessions we are set at PG. Now lets focus on SG, SF, and C.