Wayne Ellington

plustin · Post #1 » by **plustin** » Mon Jan 4, 2010 5:41 pm

Any chance this kid gets the starting job over Brewer? Brewer is very inefficient. He needs to take a ton of shots to score 12 ppg. He only shoots 41pct from the field. And an embarassing 20pct from 3pt land. He doesn't get many assists or rebounds and seems to be an overall liability on offense. And this is his 3rd year already.

Ellington (who is also shooting around 41pct) has been shooting alot better of late (around 46pct in last 18 games) and just looks like a smarter and better all around player than Brewer.

It seems like Rambis has been slowly increasing his minutes.

thoughts?

No_Pressure · Post #2 » by **No_Pressure** » Mon Jan 4, 2010 6:11 pm

Last three games he is averaging 20+ minutes for game and having about 14 ppg + 4 rebs + 2 assists and playing really well. He may be a better player, but Brewer will be the starter at least to the end of that season. The only things Brewer is better in: defense and running the floor. And I hope he will have about 20+ minutes of play every night.

moss_is_1 · Post #3 » by **moss_is_1** » Mon Jan 4, 2010 6:23 pm

Brewer is a better player than Ellington. If he started over anyone it should be Wilkins. He won't though. He's a good player to have off of our bench right now.

Devilzsidewalk · Post #4 » by **Devilzsidewalk** » Mon Jan 4, 2010 6:27 pm

just keep being aggressive because on an offense starved team he can get his minutes by putting points on the board

Post #5 » by **Klomp** » Mon Jan 4, 2010 6:46 pm

I don't really project Wayne as a full-time starter in this league. I think his best case is an offensive Raja Bell. Solid, but nothing spectacular.

Devilzsidewalk · Post #6 » by **Devilzsidewalk** » Mon Jan 4, 2010 6:52 pm

I think he's a more athletic Ray Allen

dunkonu21 · Post #7 » by **dunkonu21** » Mon Jan 4, 2010 7:01 pm

If Ellington indeed has earned more minutes it wont be at the expense of Brewer. We could use both of them playing 30+ mins if it was in the cards (Ellington hasn't earned anything close to 30 mins tho). Brewer is by far our best outside scoring threat outside of Flynn. Wayne has been ok, but he is still a little undersized. I think he has earned some more minutes, because I would expect his shot to improve with more time out on the floor to get into a good flow.

karch34 · Post #8 » by **karch34** » Mon Jan 4, 2010 7:23 pm

He is a bit undersized, but I could see him possibly starting at SG with Brewer at SF (even though defensively that isn't as strong as Brewer-Gomes, Brewer-Wilkins) with Sessions-Wilkins-Gomes being our main bench players.

horaceworthy · Post #9 » by **horaceworthy** » Mon Jan 4, 2010 8:32 pm

Klomp wrote:I don't really project Wayne as a full-time starter in this league. I think his best case is an offensive Raja Bell. Solid, but nothing spectacular.

Since 05-06, Raja Bell's started 303 of the 305 games he's been healthy for, mostly on playoff teams.

Devilzsidewalk · Post #10 » by **Devilzsidewalk** » Mon Jan 4, 2010 8:34 pm

plus he's a 2 time All-Defensive team selection

Foye · Post #11 » by **Foye** » Mon Jan 4, 2010 8:59 pm

Devilzsidewalk wrote:I think he's a more athletic Ray Allen

Lol.

plustin · Post #12 » by **plustin** » Mon Jan 4, 2010 9:09 pm

dunkonu21 wrote: Brewer is by far our best outside scoring threat outside of Flynn.

I think that is the problem. He has no outside game. Never has and I am not sure after 3 years he is any closer to developing an NBA jumpshot. Meanwhile, Ellington seems to be getting more and more comfortable and his long range jump shot is already better than Brewer's imo.

With the team struggling, I could see Rambis turning to Wayne. Although, i agree with most of you and think that if he gets a shot at starting it won't be over BRewer.

Brewer did start the first 8 games of last year at the SF.

horaceworthy · Post #13 » by **horaceworthy** » Mon Jan 4, 2010 9:33 pm

I don't really care if he's in the starting lineup, Sessions needs another offensive threat playing with him. I would like to see him get 20+ minutes or so consistently.

SSUBluesman · Post #14 » by **SSUBluesman** » Mon Jan 4, 2010 10:00 pm

I'd prefer for him to get consistent minutes coming off the bench against other 2nd unit guys for the time being. No real reason to rush him along at this point.

john2jer · Post #15 » by **john2jer** » Mon Jan 4, 2010 10:37 pm

SSUBluesman wrote:I'd prefer for him to get consistent minutes coming off the bench against other 2nd unit guys for the time being. No real reason to rush him along at this point.

This is my thinking as well. Ellington doesn't project as a starter. Might as well put him in his ideal role and let him mold his game to that.

Ojmayo · Post #16 » by **Ojmayo** » Mon Jan 4, 2010 10:55 pm

Yes, not like we're winning with Brewer starting.

southern wolf · Post #17 » by **southern wolf** » Tue Jan 5, 2010 2:58 am

dunkonu21 wrote:If Ellington indeed has earned more minutes it wont be at the expense of Brewer. We could use both of them playing 30+ mins if it was in the cards (Ellington hasn't earned anything close to 30 mins tho). Brewer is by far our best outside scoring threat outside of Flynn. Wayne has been ok, but he is still a little undersized. I think he has earned some more minutes, because I would expect his shot to improve with more time out on the floor to get into a good flow.

He's shooting at 20% from 3. I think Gomes and even Love are now bigger outside scoring threats.

Breakdown777 · Post #18 » by **Breakdown777** » Tue Jan 5, 2010 10:08 pm

Waynedrops is playing really well lately. I hope he continues to siphon away Pavlobric's minutes. I want to say that his solid all around game is because of playing at North Carolina, but the last NC guy we had wasn't so all around.

I like Flynn, Brewer, Wilkins, Love, Al starting
With Sessions, Ellington, Gomes, and Hollins making a 9 man rotation.
an occiasional Jawai and garbage time for Tucker/Cardinal.

No P#%)^(@ovics or P%^##$erovs

shangrila · Post #19 » by **shangrila** » Wed Jan 6, 2010 1:39 am

What happened to Pecherov? I remember he wasn't playing that bad when the season started. He's no world beater but especially with Gomes injured how did he move out of the rotation so quick?

Post #20 » by **Basti** » Wed Jan 6, 2010 1:43 am

shangrila wrote:What happened to Pecherov? I remember he wasn't playing that bad when the season started. He's no world beater but especially with Gomes injured how did he move out of the rotation so quick?

Wolves2011 got waived and thus his lone supporter was gone too