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I watch a lot of basketball and being from Europe I know European players, their game, strengths and weaknesses. I dont know the triangle offense so well (just basics) so I would like to ask you how do you see Rubio in this kind of offense. Will he be limited? I know based on his skills he would be great for running game, open court, creating for his teammates.

Triangle Basketball Offense - animation
http://www.coachawinningteam.com/basket ... _triangle/

Take it from Tex, the 'triangle' wins titles
http://static.espn.go.com/ncb/2003/0128/1499926.html

With a PG like Rubio. I'd much rather build my team around a transition, run and go offense.

Much like Nash and Kidd have done in their career.

get some athletic wings in here, ( turner, johnson ) or in FA ( gay, outlaw) and lets get some athletes. Brewer is an athlete.

hotshotschamp wrote:With a PG like Rubio. I'd much rather build my team around a transition, run and go offense.

That's not basketball and it doesn't win anything.

I wasn't meaning we'd always run and go.

I just think it's best to have good athletes who can run the floor with him and create easy transition baskets.. I'm not meaning we just go up and down the floor every possession. With his ability to create, especially on the run and see streaking wings, we could use it to our advantage.

Sure there would still be lots of half court sets, and ball movement, and forcing the rock into the bigs, but with a guy like rubio you could play both styles.

We could definitely win with that style with the right pieces.

Rubio will have play the triangle bench(With Jonny, Ramon) after we land Wall.

Wall is going to be flying to Minneapolis very soon.

I think Rubio will flourish in our offense as long as we can get some playmaking wings that can shoot. The main responsibility of the PG in the triangle is to space the floor and hit open 3's. Ricky is showing great range this year, especially on open catch-and-shoot 3's from the corner (a staple of the triangle). Although the triangle is our primary set, it isn't the only thing we run on offense. I can't wait to watch a pick-and-roll offense with Rubio and KLove which would give teams nightmares. Seriously those two guys would make the right decision every time and as long as KLove continues to add consistency to his shot that combo would be amazing.

I picture us continuing to push the ball as we have this year which clearly plays to Ricky's strengths, but in half court we will be just as deadly. I would think that when Rubio/Love/Al etc. are in we would run the triangle and when Al is out we would run P&R.

I don't think Ricky will have any problems. From what I understand, Kahn's master plan is for the Wolves to primarily be a run-and-gun offense that slips into the triangle when forced into the half court offense. Obviously Ricky will be great in the full court game, but based on what I've seen from watching a few of his European games, he should be fine in the triangle as well.

I don't know much about the triangle, but from what I understand, its primarily a read and react system that relies on good ball movement and good off the ball movement. From what I've seen, those are also things that are stressed by both Barcelona and the Spanish national team, and are things that Ricky is fairly good at.

I think he'll do just fine in the triangle. Rubio has such an incredibly high basketball IQ that he will be effective in any system once he gets it to know and practices it every day.

He can create for others, will play decent D once getting a bit stronger and can hit the open 3 pointer. Complies with the requirements of a PG in the triangle.

Thanks for reply

From what I understand, Kahn's master plan is for the Wolves to primarily be a run-and-gun offense that slips into the triangle when forced into the half court offense.

This would be a good combination yes...try to run a fast break, if not possible play smart half court ball.

Is Rambis a trainer which could adapt his system or one that is stubborn and will insist on triangle? How does a team play now...just triangle?

klemen4 wrote:Thanks for reply

From what I understand, Kahn's master plan is for the Wolves to primarily be a run-and-gun offense that slips into the triangle when forced into the half court offense.

This would be a good combination yes...try to run a fast break, if not possible play smart half court ball.

Is Rambis a trainer which could adapt his system or one that is stubborn and will insist on triangle? How does a team play now...just triangle?

We're a pretty up-tempo team, something like 4th in pace of play. We definately try to run, and we really don't run the triangle as much as the Lakers. We use alot of pinch-post.

based on the vids in Rubio thread, the way Ricky was running around everybody I'd say he fits better in the circle offense

Rubio might work fine in the triangle, but it doesn't seem like the best use of his talents. He was drafted #5 because he's supposed be an elite playmaker, but the triangle seems to take away some of the playmaking responsibilities of the point guard. I'd think you'd want to give Rubio as many playmaking opportunities as possible.

I'm not sure what anyone else thinks, but I'm seeing less and less triangle tedencies as the season goes on. My thoughts are he tries to use the triangle now just to try to hide our lack of talent a bit. The great thing about the triangle is the physical tools you need to run it right aren't as important as court awareness is, you can hide some of your teams flaws.

Rubio is very good but his abilities would be wasted running an offense that only requires a pg that is smart, steady, and able to shoot. While Rubio can certainly do all of these, he can do so much more. The triangle is just not a PG-centric offense. That's the one position you can use a solid role player.I have to believe if you draft Wall, Rubio becomes trade bait.

Worm Guts wrote:Rubio might work fine in the triangle, but it doesn't seem like the best use of his talents. He was drafted #5 because he's supposed be an elite playmaker, but the triangle seems to take away some of the playmaking responsibilities of the point guard. I'd think you'd want to give Rubio as many playmaking opportunities as possible.

Playmakers are playmakers ... The triangle offense takes away play-making if your a PG with limitations? ... I think it's just that we've learned Flynn has more limitations than expected. He doesn't have the game YET to create without pick-n-roll, gets a ton of shots blocked and his defense is horrible. Still, he has the potential ...

Dewey wrote:

Worm Guts wrote:Rubio might work fine in the triangle, but it doesn't seem like the best use of his talents. He was drafted #5 because he's supposed be an elite playmaker, but the triangle seems to take away some of the playmaking responsibilities of the point guard. I'd think you'd want to give Rubio as many playmaking opportunities as possible.

Playmakers are playmakers ... The triangle offense takes away play-making if your a PG with limitations? ... I think it's just that we've learned Flynn has more limitations than expected. He doesn't have the game YET to create without pick-n-roll, gets a ton of shots blocked and his defense is horrible. Still, he has the potential ...

The most assists a player has averaged in the triangle is around 7. You'd want Rubio to average more than that. I don't think Rubio is the best fit in a triangle offense.

wall and rubio wouldnt be half of what they could be in the triangle

it doesnt mesh with ball dominant playmaking elite pgs

Has an elite, ball dominant playmaking point guard ever played in the triangle?

Does Rubio dominate the ball for Barcelona? from the limited games i've seen it doesn't seem like it, euroball is all about ball movement.

Turnover_21 wrote:Does Rubio dominate the ball for Barcelona? from the limited games i've seen it doesn't seem like it, euroball is all about ball movement.

That's what I've seen, too, and it's what makes me think he'd be really good here.