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MIN - WAS

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:05 am
by shrink
I think the WAS-DAL trade saves the wizards $2.46 mil, and they needed to clear about $4.8 mil to get under the lux (with the suspensions), so they only need about $2.34 mil. If the DAL TPE is in place, you're closer, but I question why this deal wasn't done simultaneously if it exists.

Anyway, $2.34 shouldn't be hard to clear in an exchange of expirings. I'll even leave you with Mike Miller:

Mike James +$3 mil for Wilkins + OPec:

6.4666 Mike James
5.17764 Wilkins + Opec
1.28896 WAS SAVES

Josh Howard for Blount + Jawai

10.89 Josh Howard
8.727375 Blount+Jawai
2.162625 WAS SAVES

WAS saves
$3.45 Payroll reduction
$2.34 Cap Savings
$4.20 Lux share restored
-$3.0 cash payment

WAS SAVES $7 MIL

MIN loses $0.45 mil, but maybe Josh Howard draws in the fans to cover it. We won't keep him though - he has a team option for $11.8 mil in 2010. Maybe we could move him again for a non-productive expiring and a perk?

Re: MIN - WAS

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:24 am
by The J Rocka
Im not hatin it. I dont think WAS trades away Howard just for that, but then again WAS could do anything.

Re: MIN - WAS

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:28 am
by shrink
J_Era_3 wrote:Im not hatin it. I dont think WAS trades away Howard just for that, but then again WAS could do anything.


They're really trading him for $7 mil. Neither of us would keep him next season.

I agree its no real gain for us, unless we moved JHo again.

Re: MIN - WAS

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:32 am
by Krapinsky
shrink wrote:
J_Era_3 wrote:Im not hatin it. I dont think WAS trades away Howard just for that, but then again WAS could do anything.


They're really trading him for $7 mil. Neither of us would keep him next season.

I agree its no real gain for us, unless we moved JHo again.


I expect Kahn to do something like this before the deadline. Some trade where we receive $3 million and both teams end up saving money.

Re: MIN - WAS

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 3:00 am
by Slum_Dillinger
How would this go down from a roster spot perspective for Washington? They were at 15 before the Caron/JHo deal, traded 3 for 4 in that one and now trade 2 for 4.

I would consider bringing back Howard depending on how he plays out the rest of the season for much less than he is currently being payed next year, if he was willing to stay here for much less, though this is terribly unlikely to happen

Re: MIN - WAS

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 9:36 pm
by dunkonu21
Gosh it's been so long since I have taken Josh Howard seriously. I can't even think of what he does well anymore.

I guess I would do this. But u know how short a leash Flynn has? Used by Rambis cuz they are disciplining him and teaching him what they need. Josh would get a SHORTER leash, because I'll be trading him sooo fast if he messes up, and if I have control over where he goes (pretend I'm Kahn for a second), I'll send him to a team that where he will get a 10th man role.

edit: I type good! :droop:

Re: MIN - WAS

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 9:47 pm
by jade_hippo
all i know is he has spent most of the year injured. he's only like 28, so i'm sure he's still serviceable.

Re: MIN - WAS

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:03 pm
by Krapinsky
jade_hippo wrote:all i know is he has spent most of the year injured. he's only like 28, so i'm sure he's still serviceable.


Howard will be 30 in April.

Re: MIN - WAS

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:04 pm
by the_bruce
I doubt the FO is willing to take on a guy like joho unless it's a complete steal. He's a bit nuts isn't he?

Re: MIN - WAS

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:07 pm
by Krapinsky
the_bruce wrote:I doubt the FO is willing to take on a guy like joho unless it's a complete steal. He's a bit nuts isn't he?


He's not nuts, just slightly immature and a bad influence for the pups. He threw party after a playoff (finals?) loss. He's been caught with his hand in the weed jar a few times too.

Re: MIN - WAS

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 11:00 pm
by shangrila
No offence, but I don't see the point. Howard isn't staying with the team long term so any improvements he makes to the team will only hurt them later on. As for the rest there isn't much incentive for Minnesota. It's just saving little amounts of money (by NBA standards) for no point.

Re: MIN - WAS

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 11:10 pm
by revprodeji
I would assume Howard is not an option. He is bat shi.t crazy.

Re: MIN - WAS

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 11:13 pm
by Cyborg21
Can we get a trade deadline thread?

Re: MIN - WAS

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 11:46 pm
by revprodeji
I am on vacation. Ask my mistress.

nah, I will do it. No need to send a Klomp to do a Man's job.

Re: MIN - WAS

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:13 am
by Slum_Dillinger
Krapinsky wrote:
jade_hippo wrote:all i know is he has spent most of the year injured. he's only like 28, so i'm sure he's still serviceable.


Howard will be 30 in April.


Oh damn, I thought the guy was still 27-28.

Re: MIN - WAS

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:22 am
by Klomp
revprodeji wrote:I am on vacation. Ask my mistress.

nah, I will do it. No need to send a Klomp to do a Man's job.


Hey.....I heard that. You are my Marc Gasol. (see avy)

Re: MIN - WAS

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:28 am
by revprodeji
You bounce off my massiveness?

Re: MIN - WAS

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:33 am
by Klomp
revprodeji wrote:You bounce off my massiveness?


Absolutely....

Re: MIN - WAS

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:42 am
by shrink
Maybe if we spun Josh Howard to MIA, and WAS got Q-Rich, and we got goodies for taking on extra salary? Both WAS and MIA are over the lux. Maybe I'll work on it later tonight, after V-Day.

Re: MIN - WAS

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 3:02 am
by jade_hippo
Slum_Dillinger wrote:
Krapinsky wrote:
jade_hippo wrote:all i know is he has spent most of the year injured. he's only like 28, so i'm sure he's still serviceable.


Howard will be 30 in April.


Oh damn, I thought the guy was still 27-28.

I know! right? Howard was older when he came into the league. I heard about this guy, Ndudi Ebi he is still like 25, we could give him a flier, i hear good things about his game, like a KG Jr. He shut down Lebron, Sweetney and Lampe in the combine scrimages, he's like a can't miss player.