Pavs or..

[B Calrissian]

Who in the league w/ a comparable contract (cheap & ends this summer) would you take Pavs over? I got the idea from the cpfsf's LAC-MN trade thread.

1- Ricky Davis (if he didn't get waived)

[B Calrissian]

53 views and the list remains the same. Kinda what I expected.

[GopherIt!]

Luther Head maybe?

Moving Pavs would be hard thing to do. Who would we vent on if we traded him?

[cpfsf]

It either won't work or probably too much time researching. It would have to be a useless player that a team would want to waive and those guys don't grow on trees (which is good I guess). And the package they send us would have to be a bit more expensive than the package we send them so they can cover the difference since they would have waived him anyway. And then it would have to be for a team who actually think our DNP guys have value. LAC was possible because we could have given Davis a shot and LAC could fill the holes left by Camby and Griffin with a guy like Jawai. If it didn't work who cares.

[cpfsf]

Kwame for Pavlovic, Jawai, Pecherov

Adonal Foyle + cash for Jawai

Kurt Thomas (maybe some cash) for Jawai, Pecherov, Pavlovic

these are just trades I'm making up as I go along btw. Not endorsing

[B Calrissian]

Yeah I didn't mean it had to be a workable trade. I will rephrase my question..
What player w/ a comparable contract would make you think "I wish Pavs were in the game instead of him" ?

[shrink]

I think if we see Sasha moved in the next 36 hours, I think he could be a component in a CLE trade. His play this season isn't going to make him wanted, but he showed some signs in CLE, and maybe their memory is longer. We could serve as a nice gateway between CLE and WAS. The sticking factor is JJ Hickson, but if we could help send WAS under the lux, and save them $11 mil, perhaps Hickson wouldn't seem like such an important piece.

CLE GIVES: Ilgauskis + #29 pick
CLE GETS: Jamison + Pavlovic

WAS GIVES: Jamison
WAS GETS: Blount + $3.7 mil TPE

MIN GIVES: Blount (exp) + Pavlovic (exp)
MIN GETS: Ilgauskis (exp) + #29 pick

CLE gets Jamison without giving up Hickson

MIN uses 2009-10 cap space to buy a pick for $2 mil. At worst, sell the pick for 3, but I'd prefer to combine it and move up.

WAS gets $3.7 mil cap space which gets them under the lux, saving them about $11 million dollars this year, and moves $28 mil in Jamison's future salary.

[Klomp]

Washington says absolutely not....

[shrink]

Washington says absolutely not....

If the Butler-for-Josh Howard story is true, the Wizards did just give up Haywood and pay cash to move DeShawn Stevenson's $4.1 mil next year.

I don't think they'd be so haughty about saving about $11 million this season, and about $39 mil overall.

[Foye]

Who in the league w/ a comparable contract (cheap & ends this summer) would you take Pavs over? I got the idea from the cpfsf's LAC-MN trade thread.

1- Ricky Davis (if he didn't get waived)

Basically anyone?

I have trouble to find an expiring who I wouldn't take over Pavs

[shrink]

My deal is better:

The other factor is that the Wizards are currently over the NBA's luxury tax threshold. At least one potential deal discussed with Cleveland on Tuesday (Jamison and Mike James for Zydrunas Ilgauskas and Jamario Moon) would put the Wizards below the tax this season. Getting below the tax could save the Wizards around $10 million this year once you factor in rebates that teams under the tax receive from the league.

Both get WAS under the lux but ..

A. CLE would probably rather keep the productive Moon vs a 1st.
B. CLE doesn't absorb as much salary, and have to pay double.
C. Moon can play, but he's on a two-year deal.

[Krapinsky]

My deal is better:

The other factor is that the Wizards are currently over the NBA's luxury tax threshold. At least one potential deal discussed with Cleveland on Tuesday (Jamison and Mike James for Zydrunas Ilgauskas and Jamario Moon) would put the Wizards below the tax this season. Getting below the tax could save the Wizards around $10 million this year once you factor in rebates that teams under the tax receive from the league.

Both get WAS under the lux but ..

A. CLE would probably rather keep the productive Moon vs a 1st.
B. CLE doesn't absorb as much salary, and have to pay double.
C. Moon can play, but he's on a two-year deal.

I love your deal for us. However, it's more likely the Wiz simply demand to add Mike James to the deal. The Wiz hold Jamison and have the leverage there. Jamison + James for Ilgausakas and Moon puts them under the cap. The Wiz get a first. Cleveland keeps Hickson.

[Krapinsky]

I'll save Shrink the trouble ---

The other factor is that the Wizards are currently over the NBA's luxury tax threshold. At least one potential deal discussed with Cleveland on Tuesday (Jamison and Mike James for Zydrunas Ilgauskas and Jamario Moon) would put the Wizards below the tax this season. Getting below the tax could save the Wizards around $10 million this year once you factor in rebates that teams under the tax receive from the league.

Well my deal is better for all concerned.

A. CLE doesn't absorb as much salary, and have to pay double. In this deal, they add $2.6 mil in salary, and doubled for the lux, they pay $5.2, In mine, they add $1.6, so doubled they pay only $3.2 .. a $2 mil savings

B. On the floor, CLE would probably rather keep the productive Moon for the play-offs vs the #29-30 pick.

C. WAS saves an extra $1.1 mil this year

D. WAS wouldn't like Moon adding $3 mil of 2010-11 salary